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Re: Richfield - General Topics - 66th Street

Postby sdho » October 4th, 2018, 1:58 pm

And although I kind of liked Bremer's portico, I think this new building is a big improvement -- it will also use the lot much more efficiently.

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Re: Richfield - General Topics - 66th Street

Postby sdho » October 9th, 2018, 7:56 pm

Will post graphics when available, but joint work session in Richfield to hear early plans for an apartment building to be constructed on the northwest corner of the Lunds at Penn and Crosstown.

The western 50' tree buffer would remain, but a 6-story apartment building would be up against that. Much of the parking lot would remain, although they also discussed adding a one-story retail building on the northeast corner (intersection of EB Crosstown off-ramp and Penn Ave).

Around 130 units and 160 parking spaces. This would reduce the number of customer parking spaces for Lunds, which is currently over-parked significantly.

There was also a possible drive-thru discussed to be added to the Penn Avenue frontage of the Lunds building. I expressed concern about this, also stated my desire for the apartments to be closer to Penn.

Richfield has long wanted substantial redevelopment on this section of Penn, and this would be the largest redevelopment since the Penn plan was created a decade ago. The only thing even close in scale is CVS. If I'm not mistaken, I believe this would also be the tallest residential in Richfield outside of the high-rise stuff right in the downtown area. Everywhere else is 2.5-4 stories.

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Re: Richfield - General Topics - 66th Street

Postby Anondson » October 9th, 2018, 8:12 pm

Would that northwest corner apartment building give access to the 62nd frontage road? Or will that be more completely blocked off from any access through?

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Postby Multimodal » October 9th, 2018, 8:57 pm

Thanks for standing up against drive-thru’s.

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Re: Richfield - General Topics - 66th Street

Postby sdho » October 9th, 2018, 9:00 pm

Anondson wrote:
October 9th, 2018, 8:12 pm
Would that northwest corner apartment building give access to the 62nd frontage road? Or will that be more completely blocked off from any access through?
They mentioned that they considered that, but preferred access through Lunds parking lot. Although I like the idea of better integration with the neighborhood, I feel like a lot of motorized traffic is probably headed toward Crosstown and Penn -- so why make residents wind through single family streets to get there if they can get right onto Penn?

There is an existing bike path and sidewalk that will remain. I'd hope those can be made to have really nice, direct access to the apartment building. So it'll at least be an inviting bike ride or walk to get into the neighborhood to the west.

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Re: Richfield - General Topics - 66th Street

Postby mattaudio » October 10th, 2018, 7:33 am

Um doesn't the Richfield plan for Penn-Central (not the defunct railroad Penn-Central) include a park & ride facility at Penn and 62?

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Re: Richfield - General Topics - 66th Street

Postby sdho » October 10th, 2018, 12:48 pm

Here are some visuals:

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Full packet here: http://www.richfieldmn.gov/home/showdocument?id=16947

The rendering is just for overall massing. They anticipate that exterior finishes would be a "Lunds pallet" that would match a remodeled store. So I would guess that would be brown-hued brick and limestone accents based on other stores, but nobody explicitly had that.

As they did at 71 France, they do want visual cohesiveness between the old and new parts of the site.

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Re: Richfield - General Topics - 66th Street

Postby billhelm » October 10th, 2018, 2:54 pm

Very nice. that parking lot is significantly larger than it needs to be.

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Re: Richfield - General Topics - 66th Street

Postby Multimodal » October 10th, 2018, 3:35 pm

That building placement just seems very odd to me.

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Re: Richfield - General Topics - 66th Street

Postby sdho » October 10th, 2018, 4:03 pm

Multimodal wrote:
October 10th, 2018, 3:35 pm
That building placement just seems very odd to me.
You'd prefer the larger building go on NE corner? (Me too)

Three defenses of putting it in the back come to mind:
1. The 1-story retail building is not shown in the rendering. This might make it a little less harsh
2. It will allow the residential to be up against the pretty nice tree stand at the back of the lot. Would actually be kinda nice from the proposed 2nd-floor amenity deck.
3. Developers say it is easier to organize the parking lot, and prevents them from having to tear down an old, mature Oak tree near Penn

But the front of the lot still make more sense to me:
1. Better defines Penn Ave
2. Establishes a standard of 6-story scale on Penn. Most lots do not have the option of building 100'+ from the sidewalk -- because most are much narrower that this. Building close to Penn could prove a concept of building on a smaller lot
3. More convenient access to buses and sidewalk on Penn
4. Creates a sense of entry into the community for traffic entering Crosstown
5. Better northeast vantage point of downtown, Crosstown Commons interchange
6. Creates potential for mixed-use in one building

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Re: Richfield - General Topics - 66th Street

Postby seanrichardryan » October 10th, 2018, 9:45 pm

Glad they're keeping that big oak tree, though it may not survive construction of the retail building.
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Re: Richfield - General Topics - 66th Street

Postby twincitizen » October 12th, 2018, 1:06 pm

What’s the deal with the oak tree? Is there some significance with the Lunds family? It doesn’t look all that special.

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Re: Richfield - General Topics - 66th Street

Postby seanrichardryan » October 12th, 2018, 1:45 pm

It's big, old, and used to be professionally lit for the holidays every year. A local landmark of sorts.
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Re: Richfield - General Topics - 66th Street

Postby sdho » October 12th, 2018, 2:57 pm

It is nice, but I'm not sure I'd prioritize preserving it over better building placement -- especially because, realistically, it will die far before the building is torn down. That Lunds is from 1968, and I doubt the tree preceded the store.

Speaking of trees, I think it is nice that they seem committed to leaving the thick buffer of trees on the west property line intact. To reiterate from above -- will be a nice buffer for neighbors, but also if they do end up putting the apartments in the back of the lot, it could be a cool wooded view from the second floor amenity deck.


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