Rice Creek Commons (TCAAP site) - Arden Hills

[jtoemke]

(and who might be making the Baby Jesus cry by engaging in Evil Non-Reproductive Sexxytime in their apartments/condos)

Unnecessary

[Nick]

We have brought $1.75 gas upon ourselves

[MNdible]

Have these people never even heard of Chuck Marohn?

The mind boggles that such people could still exist.

[VAStationDude]

I'm envious of everyone not familiar with Strong Towns.

[twincitizen]

http://www.mprnews.org/story/2016/02/01 ... evelopment

At least a half dozen developers submitted plans to remake the former Twin Cities Army Ammunition Plant site on Monday, the first day applications were accepted.

Now called Rice Creek Commons, the site is considered one of the largest open development sites in the Twin Cities area. Last November, Ramsey County said the site had been cleared of hazardous materials well enough for residential development. The county now has 427 acres available for redevelopment and would like a single developer to come up with a plan for the whole site.

[min-chi-cbus]

Sorry if I missed it earlier, but does anyone know what is supposed to happen with the northern portion of Rice Creek Commons (the portion that, in the current presentation, shows nothing but grass)?

http://www.bizjournals.com/twincities/n ... mmons.html

[Anondson]

Maybe this should be a separate thread, but with North Heights Lutheran shutting down its religious services in Arden Hills (the megachurch campus is right across 96 from Rice Creek Commons), will this campus be sold for development?

http://www.startribune.com/ex-megachurc ... 371932751/

What kind of reuse is even possible for a megachurch campus?

[Didier]

A school, perhaps?

[matthew5080]

A community center of some kind, if you take down the religious symbols and such.

[talindsay]

An epic indoor paintball facility?

[Anondson]

Alatus chosen to develop entire site.

http://www.startribune.com/developer-ch ... 377895031/

I'm not sure how a single developer can make development on such a huge scale avoid "cookie cutter". But that is a belief for this.

[min-chi-cbus]

I'd consider living here (or the Ford site in St. Paul) if it were built out. I'm still not a fan of the space utilization, particularly for the non-residential areas, and especially for the "thumb" of the site, where some headquarters will supposedly relocate to. Also, this massive project still only represents a fraction of the total TCAAP site -- do we know what the intent is for the remaining space to the east?

[Anondson]

I think a lot was to keep as open space preservation along Lexington, maybe I'm misremembering...

[mattaudio]

Hundreds of acres developed by one developer. I have low faith in this model, just as I have low faith in a similar model if it happens at the Ford Plant. We need hundreds of actors here, not just one developer.

[min-chi-cbus]

Agree.

[twincitizen]

http://www.twincities.com/2016/06/16/me ... ey-county/

Interview with the team: Alatus, Inland Partners, and Tradition Development

[Anondson]

Alatus wants some taller buildings in the town center portion, and hopes city builds a new city council there. Name drops "West End", but in the north metro.

City wants to cap heights and desires a more suburban style. Especially hopes for high end, not low income. (Surprise!)

http://www.startribune.com/vision-for-a ... 390256001/

[Qhaberl]

Just what we need, more suburbs. (sarcasm)


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[Anondson]

Bizjournals article on the Alatus presentation. http://www.bizjournals.com/twincities/n ... j=75448772

[min-chi-cbus]

Why is height an issue when this land is surrounded by nothing? I don't get the city's trepidation with Alatus' urban scope of this project, aside from wanting to keep Mayberry, Mayberry. Isn't the primary goal tax revenue? It's interesting how many people (esp. in the suburbs) fear urbanism, like there are no positive examples of it anywhere in the country. If Arden Hills (or this part of it) could become like Frederick, MD, Shaker Heights, OH, or even this Santana Row in San Jose, would they really be against that?