Southdale Area Development - Edina

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Re: Southdale Area Development - Edina

Postby xandrex » June 6th, 2019, 9:05 am

For some reason, it really feels like there's more to the move than Herberger's leaving. It's a store my grandparents shop at when they have a coupon, so I scratch my head and wonder the same thing sdho does - how could a library possibly draw fewer patrons than that?

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Re: Southdale Area Development - Edina

Postby MNdible » June 6th, 2019, 9:36 am

If there's one thing we should have learned by now, it's that developers and retailers will seize upon any whisp of an excuse to justify a change they were going to make anyway.
Anondson wrote:
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I have been critical of the mall’s owner being so cautiously slow and small at reinventing for so long. Rosedale’s change to their Herberger’s space is the right scale.
While Rosedale's proposal is impressive, at this point I haven't seen any reason to believe that it's anything more than vaporware. Southdale, for better or worse, is making real changes right now.

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Re: Southdale Area Development - Edina

Postby pjknight01 » June 6th, 2019, 11:40 am

xandrex wrote:
June 6th, 2019, 9:05 am
For some reason, it really feels like there's more to the move than Herberger's leaving. It's a store my grandparents shop at when they have a coupon, so I scratch my head and wonder the same thing sdho does - how could a library possibly draw fewer patrons than that?
Maybe they are closing because you can get better Mexican food as little as 3-5 minutes away?

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Re: Southdale Area Development - Edina

Postby sanguinic » June 7th, 2019, 1:02 pm

Southdale Library proposal in the Strib's Streetscapes:
http://www.startribune.com/why-moving-t ... 510971112/

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Re: Southdale Area Development - Edina

Postby QuietBlue » June 7th, 2019, 2:52 pm

pjknight01 wrote:
June 6th, 2019, 11:40 am
Maybe they are closing because you can get better Mexican food as little as 3-5 minutes away?
Shoot, Qdoba is in the same building and I'd take them over Rojo.

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Re: Southdale Area Development - Edina

Postby Anondson » June 19th, 2019, 6:58 am

The US Bank offices on France proposal for retail and 200 apartments.

https://www.bizjournals.com/twincities/ ... edina.html

Seemed inevitable. Wished it was more because getting more on the other side of France is apocalyptic.

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Re: Southdale Area Development - Edina

Postby Anondson » June 21st, 2019, 5:43 pm

Millennium breaks ground on Monday.

https://www.bizjournals.com/twincities/ ... -area.html

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Re: Southdale Area Development - Edina

Postby Anondson » June 22nd, 2019, 7:02 am

Took some screenshots of the upcoming Edina Planning Commission agenda with the proposal from Ryan to redevelop the USBank offices on the corner of France and 70th, across from the Galleria. The 80 unit multifamily is a more affordable workforce housing.

I know the bank will want to keep the drive thru. They already have an overbuilt one. Not terribly enjoying adding another drive thru-business, but this is France Ave in the Southdale area. Maybe in a decade the space for the drive thru can get replace by a building?

I know this is early, but I hope the sidewalk along 70th actually gets connected to the rest of the sidewalk so people can walk/bike to the Promenade.

With the additional retail coming on the corridor in future developments, like this, I wonder if some of the tenants of the old strip retail on the rest of this megablock could relocate and the rest of this block redevelops to fulfill the future connections through the block.

ImageRyan-USBank by Eric Anondson, on Flickr
ImageRyan-USBank by Eric Anondson, on Flickr
ImageRyan-USBank by Eric Anondson, on Flickr
ImageRyan-USBank by Eric Anondson, on Flickr
ImageRyan-USBank by Eric Anondson, on Flickr
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Southdale Area Development - Edina

Postby Anondson » June 30th, 2019, 12:11 pm

Why did Ryan go so short on the USBank site?

https://finance-commerce.com/2019/06/wh ... dina-site/

Because the condo market is becoming tough. Huh.

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Re: Southdale Area Development - Edina

Postby QuietBlue » July 1st, 2019, 8:02 am

I wonder what "tough" means in that context (I don't have access to the article). Less demand, more expensive to build, the construction defect litigation law, etc.

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Re: Southdale Area Development - Edina

Postby sdho » July 2nd, 2019, 5:34 pm

This feels pretty meh compared to other proposals in the area. I guess it's better than the Etrade/Roti building across the street, but that was such a small site it felt more justifiable. I would expect more here.

At a bare minimum, Edina should require principal entrances facing France and/or 70th. I appreciate that they did that with Etrade. By this plan, looks like a single sad fire door facing France.

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Re: Southdale Area Development - Edina

Postby Multimodal » July 2nd, 2019, 6:35 pm

Remember this is a sketch plan, not a proposal.

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Re: Southdale Area Development - Edina

Postby Multimodal » July 2nd, 2019, 6:41 pm

Not sure if YouTube links to the precise time where I copied the URL, but it’s 2:43:50 where “sketch plan” is defined and where the majority of the conversation begins:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asNGWAg7p-Y

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Re: Southdale Area Development - Edina

Postby sdho » July 2nd, 2019, 10:36 pm

Multimodal wrote:
July 2nd, 2019, 6:41 pm
Not sure if YouTube links to the precise time where I copied the URL, but it’s 2:43:50 where “sketch plan” is defined and where the majority of the conversation begins:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asNGWAg7p-Y
They have a nice pattern for linking to a particular time. Just add &t=XXhXXmXXs -- like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asNGWAg7p-Y&t=2h43m50s

Thanks for noting the timestamp

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Re: Southdale Area Development - Edina

Postby Multimodal » July 2nd, 2019, 11:17 pm

Yeah, I love when people post a 3-hour video and say, “it’s in here”, leaving you no idea where.

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Re: Southdale Area Development - Edina

Postby Anondson » July 15th, 2019, 4:20 pm

The France Ave bridge is supposedly reopened early.

Anyone near the area care to share how much pedestrian improvements we got out of this $4.3M project to update the bridge?

https://twitter.com/EdinaMN/status/1148654507469000704

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Re: Southdale Area Development - Edina

Postby mister.shoes » July 15th, 2019, 10:42 pm

Can verify it’s open. Drove over it yesterday. Sidewalks look pretty puny.
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Re: Southdale Area Development - Edina

Postby sdho » August 4th, 2019, 12:23 pm

Got some pics of Aria f.k.a. Envi Edina f.k.a. Cake Residences today: https://twitter.com/sdho/status/1158042623032143874

It's looking pretty good, exterior and grounds are like 95% complete. Street presence is terrific from the townhomes, mediocre from the main building. But an obvious huge improvement over the old Best Buy.

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Re: Southdale Area Development - Edina

Postby mattaudio » August 5th, 2019, 7:18 am

I can verify this feels tightly integrated with the Taco Bell. What an amenity for those new residents.

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Re: Southdale Area Development - Edina

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