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Louisiana Station Area

Posted: June 15th, 2018, 10:16 am
by Anondson
While digging around MCWD board meeting agendas I saw that back in a late April board meeting ...

http://minnehahacreek.org/sites/minneha ... Hayman.pdf

... there was mention that the owner of an industrial property, Oxford Industrial Partners, approached the MCWD saying they were looking at redeveloping their 5.79 acres of Minnehaha Greenway adjacent property, that is also a half-block from the future Louisiana Station, “with a focus on future corridor transformation and success.”

It’s one of the few remaining industrial properties that runs directly up to the Creek banks with no buffer besides portions of the railroad wye. It reads like the property owner would like to work with the MCWD in a partnership like was done with Japs Olson so that the development enhances the Greenway but fits in the new.

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Re: Louisiana Station Area

Posted: June 15th, 2018, 8:46 pm
by Multimodal
Glad to see these industrial areas being transformed & rejuvenated.

Re: Louisiana Station Area

Posted: August 7th, 2018, 2:01 pm
by rmc
Anyone heard anything on the old Sam's Club? That seems like a prime property as well.

Re: Louisiana Station Area

Posted: August 7th, 2018, 3:58 pm
by Anondson
Not a peep.

Re: Louisiana Station Area

Posted: August 11th, 2018, 8:05 pm
by maxbaby
I heard that Amazon might be taking it for some kind of distribution center.

Re: Louisiana Station Area

Posted: August 11th, 2018, 8:14 pm
by Anondson
Whoa. I’d rather not but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Where’d you hear?

Re: Louisiana Station Area

Posted: August 11th, 2018, 8:24 pm
by maxbaby
A certain person that does their maintenance on their lift trucks at the Shakopee facility said that it was a possibility but nothing was final. Just something he had heard.

Louisiana Station Area

Posted: August 11th, 2018, 8:35 pm
by Anondson
Itty bit of irony for a Sam’s Club building being filled by Amazon. Heh. It would be a far easier location to recruit employees from Minneapolis to work there instead of Shakopee, so there is that.

Re: Louisiana Station Area

Posted: August 12th, 2018, 9:10 pm
by David Greene
I wish it were some other company than Amazon. Their work environment is somewhat less than acceptable. That said, it would be nice to see another entry-mid level employer along SWLRT.

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Re: Louisiana Station Area

Posted: May 25th, 2019, 1:18 pm
by Anondson
Kind of a big deal, on May 28th's work study session the city council will look at three scenarios for a Sam's Club redevelopment. There is nothing saying that a rezoning of the site to TOD will happen, these are (currently zoned Commercial, and the city 2040 proposed zoning keeps it zoned Commercial).

Back in 2018 the city issued a moratorium on redevelopment of the Sam's Club site. Over months, city staff and a team from Hoisington Koegler Group, Inc conducted analysis of market trends, environmental constraints, and compatible land use around it. You can check it out in the agenda document. https://www.stlouispark.org/home/showdocument?id=13702

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Re: Louisiana Station Area

Posted: May 26th, 2019, 8:21 am
by alexschief
Is the objective of the climate action plan to destroy the earth? Otherwise, I'm not seeing how the least intense, most driving oriented option gets the highest score on that measure. Let's hope for B or C.

Re: Louisiana Station Area

Posted: May 26th, 2019, 9:09 am
by Anondson
I believe the higher-than-expected rating for climate was:
* that it had gradual adaptive re-use of what is on the site.
* Louisiana was always planned to be a jobs-centric LRT station with other stations picking up the role of housing.
* this site has a very high water table (formerly a swamp), it has been capped as part of superfund site remediation because of a contamination plume under it slowly drifting south towards Edina. Deep disruption is not possible and this has minimal disruption of the contamination.

Maybe a good conversation could be had around whether there are good planning reasons to deliberately concentrate single uses around transit stations (this is the housing neighborhood station and that is the jobs station) or have each station be as mixed use as possible. I believe that between the Opus/Golden Triangle stations and Downtown that Louisiana was a station that was expected to be far more one got off at for jobs around it than housing.


Re: Louisiana Station Area

Posted: May 26th, 2019, 12:11 pm
by alexschief
I say this as someone who has an advanced degree in planning, and whose financial interests are better served if there is a lot of planning work: sometimes we plan too much.

It seems very silly to me to assign specific uses to each station.

Re: Louisiana Station Area

Posted: May 26th, 2019, 2:35 pm
by Anondson
It felt like there was a hint of an older generation of planning behind it, the style that wanted to segregate land uses because of assumed incompatibility. And Oxford is still basically old industrial. Only a few years ago the city finally chased away an operation (Flame Metals) that had multiple complaints about smoke emissions causing breathing irritation for the residents living next door.

The Beltline industrial area is having turnover of many of the old industrial warehouses being filled with fitness and brew pubs, this Oxford industrial corridor recently had a distillery and a fitness operation open up. Methodist Hospital has been swallowing up properties in the area too.

There may be some worry that these older smaller industry sites are slowly being encroached on.

Re: Louisiana Station Area

Posted: June 10th, 2019, 7:31 am
by Multimodal
Yeah I think the mixed use option makes the most sense.

It seems that cities are worried about losing jobs and the tax base that goes with them. But the demand for housing is so high. St. Louis Park has done a good job of adding density in useful places. I think they just want to keep or expand the number of jobs they have today, as their population increases.

But this could be a reflection of societal changes: are we at max jobs today?

Re: Louisiana Station Area

Posted: July 18th, 2019, 8:16 am
by Anondson

Re: Louisiana Station Area

Posted: July 18th, 2019, 8:49 am
by MNdible
The article notes that the site has a high water table and contaminated soils that were capped underneath the Sam's Club, both of which will limit options for whatever is redeveloped on the site.

Re: Louisiana Station Area

Posted: July 18th, 2019, 9:06 am
by Anondson
Yup. Superfund issues all around this area.

Re: Louisiana Station Area

Posted: September 11th, 2019, 1:46 pm
by rmc
Update on the former Sam's Club site from the city council:
"On Sept. 16, council will give final approvals to rezone the site from Commercial to a combination of High-Density Multiple Family Residential and Business Park, enabling the potential for at least 500 new housing units and 100 jobs on the site. The property, including the 150,000-square-foot former store, was recently listed at $12.5M; soil contamination and the site’s high water table will limit what can be built there."
More info: https://www.stlouispark.org/government/ ... ment-study

Re: Louisiana Station Area

Posted: October 24th, 2019, 4:14 pm
by Anondson