Public Transit News and Current Happenings

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Re: Public Transit News and Current Happenings

Postby Bakken2016 » November 14th, 2017, 12:30 pm

HiawathaGuy wrote:
November 14th, 2017, 12:11 pm
SurlyLHT wrote:
November 14th, 2017, 12:06 pm
Does this confirm that the LRT will be closed to everyone else? Or will other stations be open? (I don't see how you could run these express trains at the same time.)
My guess is that they'll supplement bus service for 'regular' riders along both lines, allowing Game Day pass holders to get the VIP Express Train Service they definitely deserve. (sarcasm meter overload)
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Re: Public Transit News and Current Happenings

Postby DanPatchToget » November 14th, 2017, 12:32 pm

So does this mean Blue Line trains will fly past the stops in between MOA and U.S. Bank Stadium, or will they crawl through the stations and then get back up to speed? Would be cool to see what an express Blue Line service would look like.

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Re: Public Transit News and Current Happenings

Postby Bakken2016 » November 14th, 2017, 12:34 pm

DanPatchToget wrote:
November 14th, 2017, 12:32 pm
So does this mean Blue Line trains will fly past the stops in between MOA and U.S. Bank Stadium, or will they crawl through the stations and then get back up to speed? Would be cool to see what an express Blue Line service would look like.
Due to federal regulations I believe they must make safety stops at all stations.

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Re: Public Transit News and Current Happenings

Postby SurlyLHT » November 14th, 2017, 12:43 pm

Bakken2016 wrote:
November 14th, 2017, 12:34 pm
DanPatchToget wrote:
November 14th, 2017, 12:32 pm
So does this mean Blue Line trains will fly past the stops in between MOA and U.S. Bank Stadium, or will they crawl through the stations and then get back up to speed? Would be cool to see what an express Blue Line service would look like.
Due to federal regulations I believe they must make safety stops at all stations.

According to the Star Tribune they will not be stopping. But, maybe that means they won't open the doors.

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Re: Public Transit News and Current Happenings

Postby Bakken2016 » November 14th, 2017, 12:49 pm

SurlyLHT wrote:
November 14th, 2017, 12:43 pm
Bakken2016 wrote:
November 14th, 2017, 12:34 pm
DanPatchToget wrote:
November 14th, 2017, 12:32 pm
So does this mean Blue Line trains will fly past the stops in between MOA and U.S. Bank Stadium, or will they crawl through the stations and then get back up to speed? Would be cool to see what an express Blue Line service would look like.
Due to federal regulations I believe they must make safety stops at all stations.

According to the Star Tribune they will not be stopping. But, maybe that means they won't open the doors.
I believe that is the case, the doors won't open.

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Re: Public Transit News and Current Happenings

Postby Bakken2016 » November 14th, 2017, 2:06 pm

In general based on people's reactions on twitter, people are beyond pissed about this.

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Re: Public Transit News and Current Happenings

Postby MNdible » November 14th, 2017, 2:15 pm

Meh. Sure, if you're prone to be upset about subsidies to the NFL and the exclusivity of the Super Bowl, this is one more thing to get fired up about. But really, this is a pretty smart way of handling things with fairly minor impacts to most people.

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Re: Public Transit News and Current Happenings

Postby Bakken2016 » November 14th, 2017, 2:39 pm

MNdible wrote:
November 14th, 2017, 2:15 pm
Meh. Sure, if you're prone to be upset about subsidies to the NFL and the exclusivity of the Super Bowl, this is one more thing to get fired up about. But really, this is a pretty smart way of handling things with fairly minor impacts to most people.
I would agree wholeheartedly. But anytime service is disrupted people complain.

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Re: Public Transit News and Current Happenings

Postby David Greene » November 14th, 2017, 3:12 pm

I've already set off my Facebook rant, but this is bullshit. Make the gladiator games attendees ride the bus, not the people that use and support transit every damn day of the year. Why should the wealthy be given exclusive access to our highest-amenity transit service?

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Re: Public Transit News and Current Happenings

Postby Bakken2016 » November 14th, 2017, 3:21 pm

David Greene wrote:
November 14th, 2017, 3:12 pm
I've already set off my Facebook rant, but this is bullshit. Make the gladiator games attendees ride the bus, not the people that use and support transit every damn day of the year. Why should the wealthy be given exclusive access to our highest-amenity transit service?
Your solution is not possible, the Dept of Homeland Security requires the security zone around the Super Bowl due to it being classified as a first tier security risk event. The light rail runs directly through the security zone, and those that don't have tickets can not go into the zone. Metro Transit was forced into this decision, and had no other option.

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Re: Public Transit News and Current Happenings

Postby Tcmetro » November 14th, 2017, 3:31 pm

I've noticed that at other games at the Metrodome, Metro Transit has run express buses from 28th Ave to the stadium.

Also, I'm surprised that the trains have to stop at each station, but not open the doors. In Chicago, CTA will run express (when late) and slightly reduce speed when going through stations.

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Re: Public Transit News and Current Happenings

Postby kellonathan » November 14th, 2017, 3:38 pm

If you have a Super Bowl ticket, buy a special $30 Gameday Pass. Regular light-rail service WILL NOT operate on gameday.
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Re: Public Transit News and Current Happenings

Postby phop » November 14th, 2017, 3:55 pm

All non-light rail transit should be free that Sunday.

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Re: Public Transit News and Current Happenings

Postby Bakken2016 » November 14th, 2017, 3:56 pm

Tcmetro wrote:
November 14th, 2017, 3:31 pm
I've noticed that at other games at the Metrodome, Metro Transit has run express buses from 28th Ave to the stadium.

Also, I'm surprised that the trains have to stop at each station, but not open the doors. In Chicago, CTA will run express (when late) and slightly reduce speed when going through stations.
Since our trains have separated ROW, but not segregated ROW they have to stop due to interacting with surrounding roadways, unlike the CTA.

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Re: Public Transit News and Current Happenings

Postby David Greene » November 14th, 2017, 3:58 pm

Bakken2016 wrote:
November 14th, 2017, 3:21 pm
Your solution is not possible, the Dept of Homeland Security requires the security zone around the Super Bowl due to it being classified as a first tier security risk event. The light rail runs directly through the security zone, and those that don't have tickets can not go into the zone. Metro Transit was forced into this decision, and had no other option.
Except they're explicitly running LRT riders through security. MetroTransit even cites an "advantage" to the buses as avoiding security checks.

"Not possible." Bullshit.

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Re: Public Transit News and Current Happenings

Postby Bakken2016 » November 14th, 2017, 4:09 pm

David Greene wrote:
November 14th, 2017, 3:58 pm
Bakken2016 wrote:
November 14th, 2017, 3:21 pm
Your solution is not possible, the Dept of Homeland Security requires the security zone around the Super Bowl due to it being classified as a first tier security risk event. The light rail runs directly through the security zone, and those that don't have tickets can not go into the zone. Metro Transit was forced into this decision, and had no other option.
Except they're explicitly running LRT riders through security. MetroTransit even cites an "advantage" to the buses as avoiding security checks.

"Not possible." Bullshit.
The buses still have to detour around the security zone. No matter what you need a Superbowl Ticket to enter the security zone, and since the trains go directly through the zone, they made it so only people with Superbowl tickets can ride the train that ONE day. It is a requirement by Homeland Security due to the nature of the event. Don't get me wrong, I hate it as much as the next person, but it isn't Metro Transit's fault. Blame the NFL and Dept of Homeland Security.

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Re: Public Transit News and Current Happenings

Postby SurlyLHT » November 14th, 2017, 4:32 pm

From what I can tell from looking online Houston didn't make their LRT for ticket holders only and their Red Line appears to go right to NRG stadium. Can someone confirm this?

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Re: Public Transit News and Current Happenings

Postby MNdible » November 14th, 2017, 4:38 pm

It appears to be almost a half mile between the LRT stop and the stadium in Houston, so not really apples to apples.

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Re: Public Transit News and Current Happenings

Postby Bakken2016 » November 14th, 2017, 4:57 pm

MNdible wrote:
November 14th, 2017, 4:38 pm
It appears to be almost a half mile between the LRT stop and the stadium in Houston, so not really apples to apples.
^This!

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Re: Public Transit News and Current Happenings

Postby SkyScraperKid » November 14th, 2017, 6:49 pm

Bakken2016 wrote:
November 14th, 2017, 2:06 pm
In general based on people's reactions on twitter, people are beyond pissed about this.
:?: I don't get why... I mean why would anybody be upset to see the public transit system they support through fee's, taxes, and regular fares get taken away from them for a day and forced to ride busses while outsiders attending a public sporting event get premium service... ohhhh.... I see it now! ;)


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