Twin Cities Future Transit Map

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Re: Twin Cities Future Transit Map

Postby Tcmetro » December 15th, 2014, 5:26 pm

I like the way it looks! Nice work!

I tried to edit the open version of the map you posted, but unfortunately I have no skills in Illustrator. Props to you for giving people a chance though!

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Re: Twin Cities Future Transit Map

Postby Visualizer » December 15th, 2014, 6:44 pm

I'll post the native file once it's finished.

On a different note, Cameroon Booth reviews the official Metro map
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Re: Twin Cities Future Transit Map

Postby Visualizer » December 16th, 2014, 1:55 am

Access the source file here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/pwx87kdhv3ge6 ... 2.pdf?dl=0

It's a vector Acrobat file that can be edited in a vector program of your choice.
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Re: Twin Cities Future Transit Map

Postby Tiller » September 8th, 2017, 1:11 am

Would anyone happen to have a copy of the source files for http://mappingtwincities.tumblr.com/pos ... map-we-are ?

It's licensed under creative commons and everything, though the dropbox link 404s and I don't think Visualizer browses the forms nowadays.

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Re: Twin Cities Future Transit Map

Postby kyril » September 8th, 2017, 12:24 pm

Here is a link to the original map from 2013:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/hp0eisiiftgvs ... l.zip?dl=0

Here is another unfinished version (Illustrator):
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4av8ydwgvlufo ... ey.ai?dl=0

Feel free to use any of the maps as foundations for your own projects. A credit is always appreciated, but not necessary.

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Re: Twin Cities Future Transit Map

Postby mister.shoes » September 8th, 2017, 1:33 pm

If you send him a PM maybe he'll get the email notification?
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Re: Twin Cities Future Transit Map

Postby Tiller » September 8th, 2017, 3:26 pm

Thanks kyril, much appreciated!

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Re: Twin Cities Future Transit Map

Postby Tiller » September 16th, 2017, 2:32 am

I've updated some stuff from the original map, though still a WIP (I'm def getting better at using illustrator).

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Re: Twin Cities Future Transit Map

Postby mamundsen » September 17th, 2017, 12:07 am

Couple questions...
1. Why not list the east side Gold and Rush Lines as BRT?
2. No aBRT?
3. Would be cool to see the legend have projected opening date (or best guess)
4. I agree with others, why take away Red label?

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Re: Twin Cities Future Transit Map

Postby Tiller » September 17th, 2017, 2:15 am

Re: the Red/Pink Line, It just seems appropriate to use the 3 primary colors for our 3 LRT lines. I'm going to have to give some thought to how to rework the bus routes/add the aBRT lines, since not everything will fit cleanly into the map as it's currently structured. I might add the midtown greenway streetcar before dealing with the buses though.

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https://www.dropbox.com/sh/qayzzzn83se9 ... JjQ_a?dl=0
https://imgur.com/d4PNslM

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Re: Twin Cities Future Transit Map

Postby HiawathaGuy » September 18th, 2017, 8:00 am

Also, Green Line extension is planned to end at Southwest, as Mitchell was dropped.

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Re: Twin Cities Future Transit Map

Postby Visualizer » September 18th, 2017, 11:12 am

I've finally remembered my password.

I'd like to make a suggestion if I may. For simplicity's sake, I suggest using the same line color for aBRT and regular bus routes. Functionally, aBRT isn't any different from the hi frequency network. You may also want to use different line thicknesses to show more or less frequent routes.
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Re: Twin Cities Future Transit Map

Postby jebr » September 19th, 2017, 2:58 pm

Visualizer wrote:
September 18th, 2017, 11:12 am
I've finally remembered my password.

I'd like to make a suggestion if I may. For simplicity's sake, I suggest using the same line color for aBRT and regular bus routes. Functionally, aBRT isn't any different from the hi frequency network. You may also want to use different line thicknesses to show more or less frequent routes.
I'd somewhat disagree. aBRT stations have off-board payment, limited stops, and more stop/station amenities. While I don't think they're on the same level as true BRT or LRT, I think they're a step above a simple high-frequency line (that still can be very slow if it's stopping at every block.)

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Re: Twin Cities Future Transit Map

Postby Visualizer » September 19th, 2017, 10:55 pm

aBRT certainly offers a few extra amenities above a regular hi-freq bus. However, in terms of strictly communicating frequency on a regional map, I think it's best to stick to a limited selection of colors and styles. Just my professional opinion ;)
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Re: Twin Cities Future Transit Map

Postby gopherfan » September 21st, 2017, 10:26 am

Convinced Minneapolis should look to redevelop our North Riverfront with a transit line to spur growth. Think tech (Amazon?), Heath Care (Mayo Clinic?), Academia (UofM?), and housing.
It worked in Portland http://www.portlandbridges.com/portland ... front.html

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1KGtbZ ... sp=sharing

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Re: Twin Cities Future Transit Map

Postby RailBaronYarr » September 21st, 2017, 12:02 pm

Well, there's this, which would provide transit access for areas along the river as far north as 22nd Ave (walkshed included there) https://www.metrotransit.org/west-broad ... nsit-study

And then also this: https://metrocouncil.org/Transportation ... Study.aspx which includes the I-94 highway BRT corridor with stations at Lowry (On-Line, like 46th St on 35W) and Dowling.

I've also thought about (maybe talked about on the forums? too lazy to look it up) a better E-W transit option, even if just simplifying or aBRT-ing a route) connecting N Mpls to NE Mpls. Something that runs from ?the Honeywell campus in GV? then along Golden Valley Rd/W Broadway all the way to Mid-City Industrial and then connecting to an A Line station on Snelling (or even terminating at the Green Line) would be short but potentially very useful for that part of town the way the 2 and 21 are for S/SW Mpls.

Anyway.

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Re: Twin Cities Future Transit Map

Postby Tcmetro » September 21st, 2017, 12:14 pm

The north to northeast bus lines are all low demand and are pretty much "express" in the fact that most stops don't have people getting on or off.

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Re: Twin Cities Future Transit Map

Postby grant1simons2 » September 21st, 2017, 12:16 pm

Except the 32. But who the heck wants to stand and wait on Lowry?

Oh and the 30 that's also under serving.

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Re: Twin Cities Future Transit Map

Postby gopherfan » September 21st, 2017, 1:15 pm

West Broadway streetcar is really promising for development near downtown along the river, the BRT less so though for development. 46th Street station really hasn't spurred any development, plus something on 94 wouldn't address the needed connection to riverfront development. If the upper harbor project takes off and the amphitheater gets created it could be a justifier for a transit route.

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Re: Twin Cities Future Transit Map

Postby RailBaronYarr » September 21st, 2017, 1:57 pm

Well, chicken/egg and all that, but the 30 and 32 have 30 minute headways (60 off-peak for Rt 30). That makes it only good for a no-transfer trip, and even then.. I don't know, obviously the 21 has a huge legacy and the 2 is anchored by the U and both serve traditionally denser neighborhoods than N/NE. It's just hard for me to look at the transit decisions MT makes for things like the Red Line or even our next 2 LRT lines (or, hell, $450m BRTs garnering 5,000 riders/day in 2040) and not wonder how the math works out to justify those investments and not something like this (I actually do get it - getting hundreds of millions in federal capital dollars where zero is present for operating expenses is a huge driver in decision making). Sure, a N/NE cross-town route might be #15 on the list of urban routes to get that treatment, but it's weird that most people seem okay with 10 minute headways in Woodbury and White Bear Lake or a $15m Cedar Grove Station and skyway serving 200 people a day but not running buses in N/NE more frequently and with good shelters.


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