Street, Road and Highway Projects

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Re: Street, Road and Highway Projects

Postby Qhaberl » June 27th, 2018, 6:04 am

I agree. Leave it the way the picture has it. But all the freeways and stuff underground. Preaching to the choir.


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Re: Street, Road and Highway Projects

Postby jtoemke » June 27th, 2018, 6:31 am

The funny thing about construction is that it actually proves we don't need it. The world hasn't ended.

At least bury the damn thing. ugh.

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Re: Street, Road and Highway Projects

Postby MNdible » June 27th, 2018, 8:27 am

You're right! The world also didn't end before we had bike lanes, so clearly we don't need those either.

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Re: Street, Road and Highway Projects

Postby Multimodal » June 27th, 2018, 10:01 am

We should bury *transit* in urban nodes, and leave the streets for bikes, pedestrians, and commerce (trucks, vans).

Highways should ring cities, not penetrate them. Or just replace highways with inter-city trains.

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Re: Street, Road and Highway Projects

Postby grant1simons2 » June 27th, 2018, 10:05 am

MNdible wrote:
June 27th, 2018, 8:27 am
You're right! The world also didn't end before we had bike lanes, so clearly we don't need those either.
... A lot more people died, we're injured, didn't bike, and contributed to pollution.

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Re: Street, Road and Highway Projects

Postby DanPatchToget » June 27th, 2018, 11:23 am

MNdible wrote:
June 27th, 2018, 8:27 am
You're right! The world also didn't end before we had bike lanes, so clearly we don't need those either.
Then we (the bikers) will bike on the road, which is legal, and if motorists don't like it then support bike lanes.

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Re: Street, Road and Highway Projects

Postby MNdible » June 27th, 2018, 12:05 pm

Wait for it.

I'm actually suggesting that both bike lanes and freeways are worthwhile and important parts of our transportation system.

Mind blowing.

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Re: Street, Road and Highway Projects

Postby EOst » June 27th, 2018, 1:04 pm

Would people here really prefer having this level of daily traffic on Park/Portland/Nicollet/etc? There's a lot of space between "the world is ending" and "everything's fine."

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Re: Street, Road and Highway Projects

Postby DanPatchToget » June 27th, 2018, 3:36 pm

If there was better public transit (more than just ABRT) I wouldn't mind.

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Re: Street, Road and Highway Projects

Postby mattaudio » June 27th, 2018, 3:42 pm

With all the giant earthwork happening in that photo, it sure is a shame we're not getting a rail transit right-of-way in that corridor between the south end of downtown and the Greenway or even further south.

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Re: Street, Road and Highway Projects

Postby Multimodal » June 28th, 2018, 4:57 am

mattaudio wrote:With all the giant earthwork happening in that photo, it sure is a shame we're not getting a rail transit right-of-way in that corridor between the south end of downtown and the Greenway or even further south.
Yeah, talk about a once in a lifetime opportunity.

But I’m guessing this was designed years ago.

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Re: Street, Road and Highway Projects

Postby MNdible » July 26th, 2018, 2:15 pm

It appears from project documents that the 35th, 36th, and 42nd Street bridges across 35W aren't going to be reconstructed as part of the current massive project. Does anybody have any sense as to why? Sure seems like you'd take care of these while everything else is messed up.

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Re: Street, Road and Highway Projects

Postby mattaudio » July 26th, 2018, 2:33 pm

38th wasn't even reconstructed... simply redecked.

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Re: Street, Road and Highway Projects

Postby MNdible » July 26th, 2018, 3:01 pm

Well, 38th is essentially a new bridge on existing foundations. The piers were extensively reinforced, and the beams are all new. So more than a redecking.

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Re: Street, Road and Highway Projects

Postby niaxilin » July 26th, 2018, 3:05 pm

It's odd how every bridge in the Hwy 62 to 46th St redo was replaced, and the look of those bridges ties in well with the new retaining walls. Is everything north of 46th St going to look disjointed and haphazard in comparison? To be fair, there are a lot more bridges in the northern section.


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