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Re: Future cars / Driverless cars

Postby VAStationDude » December 14th, 2016, 4:20 pm

Driver less ride sharing cars - the marriage of two extra legal tech industry money pits.

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Re: Future cars / Driverless cars

Postby mplsjaromir » December 14th, 2016, 4:27 pm

I personally have a lot of love for non-profits, just not Uber and Tesla.

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Re: Future cars / Driverless cars

Postby David Greene » December 14th, 2016, 4:43 pm

Anondson wrote:Google maybe no longer developing a self driving car?

http://www.theverge.com/2016/12/13/1393 ... artnership
Makes sense. Not much money in manufacturing these things but software and service can be killer.

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Re: Future cars / Driverless cars

Postby RailBaronYarr » December 15th, 2016, 10:41 am

Update on that driverless Uber..

https://electrek.co/2016/12/14/uber-sel ... strian-sf/

Official statement from Uber:
This incident was due to human error. This is why we believe so much in making the roads safer by building self-driving Ubers. This vehicle was not part of the pilot and was not carrying customers. The driver involved has been suspended while we continue to investigate.

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Re: Future cars / Driverless cars

Postby VAStationDude » December 19th, 2016, 9:21 pm

Uber keeps dangerous self driving cars on the streets in defiance of the State of California.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... CMP=twt_gu

Uber's gargantuan losses are growing more slowly.

http://www.businessinsider.com/uber-los ... 16-2016-12

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Re: Future cars / Driverless cars

Postby VAStationDude » December 21st, 2016, 8:58 pm

Uber has pulled their self driving cars from California roads.

http://startribune.com/uber-pulls-self- ... ection=%2F

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Re: Future cars / Driverless cars

Postby Anondson » February 7th, 2017, 10:55 pm

Pittsburgh is showing signs of regret giving Uber as much as they have.

https://qz.com/904744/pittsburgh-offici ... -the-city/

Interesting lessons learned.

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Re: Future cars / Driverless cars

Postby Anondson » February 23rd, 2017, 9:44 pm

Uber will be sued because current employees stole Waymo's (Alphabet subsidiary) LiDAR designs when they worked at Waymo to bring with them to new jobs.

https://medium.com/waymo/a-note-on-our- ... .qlr8gmhzf

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Re: Future cars / Driverless cars

Postby Anondson » February 24th, 2017, 9:22 am

Vox on the Waymo lawsuit against Uber.

http://www.vox.com/new-money/2017/2/23/ ... er-lawsuit

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Re: Future cars / Driverless cars

Postby Anondson » February 24th, 2017, 10:48 pm

Aaaaand Uber lied about its car caught running red lights, the cars turn out to have been not driven by people after all.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/02/24/t ... wsuit.html

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Re: Future cars / Driverless cars

Postby Anondson » March 1st, 2017, 9:17 am

Tesla's self-driving car video may be little more than deceptive marketing.

http://dailykanban.com/2017/02/ca-dmv-r ... ive-video/

Such as only filming when rush hour wasn't happening (those times took frequent human intervention)...

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Re: Future cars / Driverless cars

Postby Anondson » March 17th, 2017, 8:34 am

A look at Uber's self-driving progress.

https://www.recode.net/2017/3/16/149381 ... w-progress

There is progress, but at this rate it feels like I'll be dead before we have fleets of self-driving cars on speed dial in Minnesota.

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Re: Future cars / Driverless cars

Postby Anondson » March 22nd, 2017, 8:16 am

How pedestrians will defeat autonomous cars.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... tter-Share

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Re: Future cars / Driverless cars

Postby Anondson » April 19th, 2017, 10:07 pm

Super safe sensor-laden cars might be very expensive to insure simply because the sensor arrays are really expensive to repair.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-your-e ... 1491211803

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Re: Future cars / Driverless cars

Postby RailBaronYarr » April 20th, 2017, 7:54 am

Can't read the article, but are those added insurance costs balanced by the likely drop in crash rates an autonomous car would have?

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Re: Future cars / Driverless cars

Postby mplsjaromir » April 21st, 2017, 8:03 am

That is one thing about driverless cars that will have to be addressed. If you drive around it doesn't take long to notice the amount of people who have vehicles that clearly need major body work. I do not see how hundreds of sensors on a single vehicle are going to remain in calibration for decades safely.

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Re: Future cars / Driverless cars

Postby VacantLuxuries » April 21st, 2017, 8:22 am

How much body work will be needed if there aren't any fender benders any more?

Sensor calibration will just be the new thing the future version of Valvoline will bug you about when you just want the routine diagnostic on your car's computer.

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Re: Future cars / Driverless cars

Postby mplsjaromir » April 21st, 2017, 9:09 am

Stuff happens to cars while parked. Maybe a some point all cars will autonomous, but in the interim even a cautious computer will still have to deal with a chaotic and unpredictable world.

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Re: Future cars / Driverless cars

Postby amiller92 » April 21st, 2017, 9:27 am

VacantLuxuries wrote:
April 21st, 2017, 8:22 am
How much body work will be needed if there aren't any fender benders any more?
It's going to be a very long while until all cars are autonomous, and in the meantime, there will be older cars that can still bend your fender.

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Re: Future cars / Driverless cars

Postby VacantLuxuries » April 21st, 2017, 9:38 am

I think people are underestimating how quickly insurance companies will make manual driving unaffordable once this technology is available. If there's one thing insurance companies love, it's getting a steady revenue with a significantly reduced chance of having to pay it back. As soon as the technology is there, they have the market tools (and as we've seen with health care, the will to use them) to force a painful and quick adoption of autonomous cars.

But yeah, there probably still will be some incidental damage. But it will not be nearly as rampant as today.


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