Future Cars: Electric and Autonomous Vehicles

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Re: Future cars / Driverless cars

Postby amiller92 » December 12th, 2016, 3:02 pm

When planes crash we don't see calls for regulations to make it 100% safe, we have a system of review and determination of fixes, and then it goes on.
Hm. They are pretty close to 100% safe, and that's in part because they are highly regulated. Also, when that review is done, it's not at all unusual for the regs to change.
The airlines/aeronautics companies simply absorb the costs of the very (very) limited risk.
There are also laws/regs that cap their exposure.

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Re: Future cars / Driverless cars

Postby FISHMANPET » December 12th, 2016, 3:20 pm

Every plane crash is seen as preventable, and when root causes are found steps are taken to mitigate that in the future, be it through regulation or engineering or whatever. So yes, airlines and airplane manufacturers are constantly striving for 100% safe.

Car crashes are just seen as a fact of life and are unavoidable and a necessary cost in our modern world. Manufacturers and regulators don't take the same view of car crashes as they do airplane crashes.

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Re: Future cars / Driverless cars

Postby nBode » December 12th, 2016, 3:24 pm

^I think it should be noted that airplane and automobile industries both strive for 100% safety--for the occupants. The difference is that planes don't kill pedestrians. Car manufacturers are constantly touting their models' safety features and ratings; these are meant to keep you and everyone else inside safe. We are just starting to see features that are also aimed at keeping people outside the vehicle safe. Airplanes have never had to worry about this issue.

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Re: Future cars / Driverless cars

Postby amiller92 » December 12th, 2016, 3:39 pm

The difference is that planes don't kill pedestrians.
On very rare occasions they do. ;)

But unlike cars, those occasions also usually involve killing occupants too.

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Re: Future cars / Driverless cars

Postby Anondson » December 13th, 2016, 8:58 am

Google maybe no longer developing a self driving car?

http://www.theverge.com/2016/12/13/1393 ... artnership

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Re: Future cars / Driverless cars

Postby mplsjaromir » December 14th, 2016, 4:01 pm

Driverless car runs a redlight....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CdJ4oae8f4

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Re: Future cars / Driverless cars

Postby VAStationDude » December 14th, 2016, 4:20 pm

Driver less ride sharing cars - the marriage of two extra legal tech industry money pits.

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Re: Future cars / Driverless cars

Postby mplsjaromir » December 14th, 2016, 4:27 pm

I personally have a lot of love for non-profits, just not Uber and Tesla.

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Re: Future cars / Driverless cars

Postby David Greene » December 14th, 2016, 4:43 pm

Google maybe no longer developing a self driving car?

http://www.theverge.com/2016/12/13/1393 ... artnership
Makes sense. Not much money in manufacturing these things but software and service can be killer.

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Re: Future cars / Driverless cars

Postby RailBaronYarr » December 15th, 2016, 10:41 am

Update on that driverless Uber..

https://electrek.co/2016/12/14/uber-sel ... strian-sf/

Official statement from Uber:
This incident was due to human error. This is why we believe so much in making the roads safer by building self-driving Ubers. This vehicle was not part of the pilot and was not carrying customers. The driver involved has been suspended while we continue to investigate.

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Re: Future cars / Driverless cars

Postby VAStationDude » December 19th, 2016, 9:21 pm

Uber keeps dangerous self driving cars on the streets in defiance of the State of California.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... CMP=twt_gu

Uber's gargantuan losses are growing more slowly.

http://www.businessinsider.com/uber-los ... 16-2016-12

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Postby VAStationDude » December 21st, 2016, 8:58 pm

Uber has pulled their self driving cars from California roads.

http://startribune.com/uber-pulls-self- ... ection=%2F

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Re: Future cars / Driverless cars

Postby Anondson » February 7th, 2017, 10:55 pm

Pittsburgh is showing signs of regret giving Uber as much as they have.

https://qz.com/904744/pittsburgh-offici ... -the-city/

Interesting lessons learned.

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Re: Future cars / Driverless cars

Postby Anondson » February 23rd, 2017, 9:44 pm

Uber will be sued because current employees stole Waymo's (Alphabet subsidiary) LiDAR designs when they worked at Waymo to bring with them to new jobs.

https://medium.com/waymo/a-note-on-our- ... .qlr8gmhzf

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Re: Future cars / Driverless cars

Postby Anondson » February 24th, 2017, 9:22 am

Vox on the Waymo lawsuit against Uber.

http://www.vox.com/new-money/2017/2/23/ ... er-lawsuit

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Re: Future cars / Driverless cars

Postby Anondson » February 24th, 2017, 10:48 pm

Aaaaand Uber lied about its car caught running red lights, the cars turn out to have been not driven by people after all.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/02/24/t ... wsuit.html

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Re: Future cars / Driverless cars

Postby Anondson » March 1st, 2017, 9:17 am

Tesla's self-driving car video may be little more than deceptive marketing.

http://dailykanban.com/2017/02/ca-dmv-r ... ive-video/

Such as only filming when rush hour wasn't happening (those times took frequent human intervention)...

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Re: Future cars / Driverless cars

Postby Anondson » March 17th, 2017, 8:34 am

A look at Uber's self-driving progress.

https://www.recode.net/2017/3/16/149381 ... w-progress

There is progress, but at this rate it feels like I'll be dead before we have fleets of self-driving cars on speed dial in Minnesota.

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Re: Future cars / Driverless cars

Postby Anondson » March 22nd, 2017, 8:16 am

How pedestrians will defeat autonomous cars.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... tter-Share

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Re: Future cars / Driverless cars

Postby Anondson » April 19th, 2017, 10:07 pm

Super safe sensor-laden cars might be very expensive to insure simply because the sensor arrays are really expensive to repair.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-your-e ... 1491211803


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