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Re: "A Line" Snelling Avenue Arterial Bus

Postby mamundsen » July 11th, 2015, 2:56 pm

Saw a new sidewalk sticker at Larpentuer and Snelling that said "coming soon: A LINE" and it looked official from Metro Transit. The strange thing was that it was at the stop on larpentuer (route 61), there was not a similar one on Snelling (route 84). Seems backwards to me.

Anyone else seen these?

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Re: "A Line" Snelling Avenue Arterial Bus

Postby mamundsen » July 12th, 2015, 6:31 pm

mamundsen wrote:Saw a new sidewalk sticker at Larpentuer and Snelling that said "coming soon: A LINE" and it looked official from Metro Transit. The strange thing was that it was at the stop on larpentuer (route 61), there was not a similar one on Snelling (route 84). Seems backwards to me.

Anyone else seen these?
I was over here picking up dinner and snapped a quick photo.

https://flic.kr/p/vDw7C5

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Re: "A Line" Snelling Avenue Arterial Bus

Postby Minnekid » July 12th, 2015, 11:45 pm

What I don't like about this line, along with light rail is that it is very easy to board without paying. Along with that, more transit cops will have to be hired to check tickets which adds the the expense of the line. But I don't know what else could be done to make sure people pay.

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Re: "A Line" Snelling Avenue Arterial Bus

Postby Tiller » July 13th, 2015, 3:07 am

Unless we decide, as a society, to either put chips in everyone or eliminate fares and pay for all operating costs via taxes, not much can be done cost-effectively.

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Re: "A Line" Snelling Avenue Arterial Bus

Postby RailBaronYarr » July 13th, 2015, 8:28 am

Yeah, it's been discussed pretty thoroughly on this site before. But proof of payment with random fare checks improves bus travel times and results in higher ridership per revenue hour, with little extra cost per revenue hour due to transit cops. It's the type of no-brainer change we need to make across the entire bus system rather than worrying about the additional 1-2% of riders who may skip out on a fare.

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Re: "A Line" Snelling Avenue Arterial Bus

Postby woofner » July 13th, 2015, 2:38 pm

"Who rescued whom!"

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Re: "A Line" Snelling Avenue Arterial Bus

Postby mplsjaromir » July 20th, 2015, 1:55 pm

Fare evasion lower on NYC Select Bus Service routes. Similar PoP system that the A Line will use.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/20/arts/ ... -york.html

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Re: "A Line" Snelling Avenue Arterial Bus

Postby ProspectPete » July 26th, 2015, 8:24 am

I have seen the new A-line "platforms" going in on Snelling. They are the same height as the surrounding sidewalk. Does anyone know if the whole bus will "kneel" so that all doors will be flush with the curb?

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Re: "A Line" Snelling Avenue Arterial Bus

Postby intercomnut » July 26th, 2015, 8:43 am

Since the buses are the same as the ones MT usually buys, just with some internal and external enhancements, I'm guessing only the front will kneel. They said that they'd go for "near level" boarding and do nine-inch sidewalks where they could, so the doors will probably not always be flush/level. Plus, as seen with the Red Line, getting the doors flush even with a level platform is a challenge for the drivers.

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Re: "A Line" Snelling Avenue Arterial Bus

Postby EOst » July 26th, 2015, 9:29 am

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Re: "A Line" Snelling Avenue Arterial Bus

Postby mulad » July 26th, 2015, 10:02 pm

I'm assuming the platforms that have gone in so far are the ones where they decided the 9" platforms weren't feasible. The mix of platform heights is probably going to drive me nuts.

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Re: "A Line" Snelling Avenue Arterial Bus

Postby mulad » October 13th, 2015, 3:46 pm

Construction update:

http://a-line.cmail2.com/t/ViewEmail/r/ ... 35EB2CBB57

Platforms will be under construction from now into early December on Snelling at St. Clair, Highland, Como, Hoyt/Nebraska, Larpenteur, and County B, as well as at Rosedale Center.

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Re: "A Line" Snelling Avenue Arterial Bus

Postby helsinki » November 3rd, 2015, 4:46 pm

Cool before/after video neatly illustrating the benefits all door boarding (in Los Angeles):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNIblkXB_tc

A similar 69 to 31 second reduction in boarding time on the "A" line would shave 10 minutes; admittedly, it is unlikely that boardings take so long now.

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Re: "A Line" Snelling Avenue Arterial Bus

Postby grant1simons2 » November 3rd, 2015, 4:51 pm

So basically Hennepin NEEDS this. I think we spent about 8 minutes on boarding this morning on the 6.

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Re: "A Line" Snelling Avenue Arterial Bus

Postby intercomnut » November 20th, 2015, 8:38 pm

The Transportation Committee is set to approve the purchase of 10 additional Bus Rapid Transit Ticket Vending Machines (BRTVMs) for the aBRT systems. The additional machines will be portable and meant for use during special events at any aBRT stop, such as for the state fair. They'll be solar powered and connect wirelessly.

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Re: "A Line" Snelling Avenue Arterial Bus

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Re: "A Line" Snelling Avenue Arterial Bus

Postby EOst » December 7th, 2015, 5:08 pm

Still seems crazy to me that they haven't decided how they'll brand this as a system. Why wouldn't you want to get ahead of whatever ad hoc names people are going to come up with? Even the bus drivers still say "Hiawatha line."

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Re: "A Line" Snelling Avenue Arterial Bus

Postby twincitizen » December 7th, 2015, 8:40 pm

I think they landed on "no brand". It'll simply be the letter system, and that will provide enough significance in and of itself.

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Re: "A Line" Snelling Avenue Arterial Bus

Postby David Greene » December 7th, 2015, 9:00 pm

I still hate the livery. It will not age well. Already looks dated.

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Re: "A Line" Snelling Avenue Arterial Bus

Postby nBode » December 7th, 2015, 10:14 pm

I agree with David.


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