Rush Line Corridor BRT

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Re: Rush Line Corridor (Alternatives Analysis)

Postby Tiller » September 18th, 2017, 9:30 pm

When did they make the decision about naming gateway the gold line? I think it happened before racial tensions escalated as they have over the last several years.

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Re: Rush Line Corridor (Alternatives Analysis)

Postby Tcmetro » September 18th, 2017, 10:20 pm

I've never heard about the Brown Line issue in Chicago, but Atlanta changed the Yellow Line to the Gold Line because of complaints from the Asian community.

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Re: Rush Line Corridor (Alternatives Analysis)

Postby Silophant » September 18th, 2017, 10:22 pm

I was just in Atlanta this weekend and was wondering about that. Red, Blue, Green... and Gold. Makes sense, though.

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Re: Rush Line Corridor (Alternatives Analysis)

Postby mamundsen » January 23rd, 2018, 8:09 pm

According to an email from Ramsey County (?):
Rush Line BRT Environmental Analysis Phase Begins

Planning for the Rush Line bus rapid transit (BRT) project continues to move forward! After selection of the Locally Preferred Alternative in fall 2017, the project’s environmental analysis phase recently began. This work phase will identify ways to maximize mobility, accessibility and economic development opportunities and minimize impacts. The two years will include the following key tasks:

Preparation of an environmental assessment.
-Station area planning.
-Preliminary engineering.
-Communication.
-Community engagement.

A talented team of engineers, planners, environmental experts, public engagement specialists and other professionals, led by Kimley-Horn & Associates, has been selected to complete this work under the direction of the Ramsey County Regional Railroad Authority.

Feedback from community members, businesses and organizations is essential for a successful project. Stay tuned for opportunities to share your perspectives and help shape this project! Like us on Facebook and share this newsletter with anyone who may be interested.
RFPs for Project Management and Strategic Communications

On Tuesday, Jan. 23, Ramsey County Regional Railroad Authority approved a request for proposals for a project management consultant and a strategic communications consultant. Ramsey County is committed to ensuring that the Rush Line BRT project is efficiently managed and includes broad input from communities. Firms interested in responding to either request for proposals are encouraged to register in Onvia/DemandStar and download the documentation.

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Re: Rush Line Corridor (Alternatives Analysis)

Postby grant1simons2 » January 23rd, 2018, 11:43 pm

This still a $800 million express bus?

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Re: Rush Line Corridor (Alternatives Analysis)

Postby mamundsen » January 24th, 2018, 12:24 am

LPA fact sheet:

https://www.ramseycounty.us/sites/defau ... 0pager.PDF
LOCALLY PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE STATISTICS
APPROX. LENGTH: 14 MILES
DEDICATED GUIDEWAY: 85-90%
(transit-only) *important to catalyze economic development
NUMBER OF STATIONS: 20
includes Union Depot and Maplewood Mall Transit Center
SCHEDULE: 5A–12A | 7 DAYS/WEEK
starts at 6a on Sunday
FREQUENCY:
RUSH HOUR: EVERY 10 MIN.
NON-RUSH HOUR: EVERY 15 MIN.
CAPITAL COST ($2021): $420M (+$55M for other transit routes in guideway)
ANNUAL O&M COST ($2015): $7.8–8M
AVERAGE DAILY RIDERSHIP (2040): 5,700–9,700
higher ridership if other transit routes are in the guideway
TRAVEL TIME: 14 MIN.
one way, White Bear Lake > Maplewood Mall
TRAVEL TIME: 30 MIN.
one way, Maplewood Mall > St. Paul Central Business District
TRAVEL TIME: 6 MIN.
one way, St. Paul Central Business District > Union Depot
# PEOPLE LIVING IN STATION AREAS (2040): 60,200
# JOBS IN STATION AREAS (2040): 106,700
# PEOPLE LIVING BELOW POVERTY IN STATION AREAS (2014): 11,700

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Re: Rush Line Corridor (Alternatives Analysis)

Postby SkyScraperKid » January 24th, 2018, 12:30 am

grant1simons2 wrote:
January 23rd, 2018, 11:43 pm
This still a $800 million express bus?


That much for one bus? eh, sounds like a bad investment. I would think that much money would at LEAST cover 3 express busses. :roll:

Or maybe it's a hover bus? Is it a hover bus?!?!?

Apparently Duluth is already working on this http://www.duluthtransit.com/content/fe ... ilfool.png

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Re: Rush Line Corridor (Alternatives Analysis)

Postby Bakken2016 » March 22nd, 2018, 12:39 pm

Environmental analysis phase begins, and first PAC Meeting is March 29th at 3pm.
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Re: Rush Line Corridor BRT

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Re: Rush Line Corridor BRT

Postby mamundsen » March 30th, 2018, 7:30 pm

I'm thinking about applying for the community advisory committee. Anyone else?

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Re: Rush Line Corridor BRT

Postby David Greene » March 30th, 2018, 7:56 pm

Go for it! You'll learn a lot! I enjoyed my time.

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Re: Rush Line Corridor BRT

Postby DanPatchToget » March 30th, 2018, 8:07 pm

How and why does it take two years to do environmental studies?

Also this caught my eye: "...something called a 'diesel multiple unit' — a train powered by diesel engines." Could the author of this article not do a quick search on Wikipedia to learn that DMUs are self-propelled instead of the typical (for American railways) diesel locomotive pulling/pushing coaches? Wouldn't be too technical for the average reader.

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Re: Rush Line Corridor BRT

Postby Bakken2016 » March 31st, 2018, 9:35 pm

mamundsen wrote:I'm thinking about applying for the community advisory committee. Anyone else?
I’m thinking about it as well!


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Re: Rush Line Corridor BRT

Postby Vagueperson » March 31st, 2018, 10:13 pm

already applied.

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Re: Rush Line Corridor BRT

Postby Vagueperson » May 30th, 2018, 6:51 am

The Rush Line has started its local station area planning meetings with community members to refine where to put the stations. They have also sent out confirmations to people on the Community Advisory Committee (I'll be on it).

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Re: Rush Line Corridor BRT

Postby mamundsen » May 30th, 2018, 7:56 am

Vagueperson wrote:
May 30th, 2018, 6:51 am
The Rush Line has started its local station area planning meetings with community members to refine where to put the stations. They have also sent out confirmations to people on the Community Advisory Committee (I'll be on it).
Congrats. I guess this means I wasn't chosen for the CAC. I am on the email list and see there is a PAC meeting tomorrow @ 2:30pm. I'm interested to see the project walk through with guideway and station locations.

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Re: Rush Line Corridor BRT

Postby bptenor » May 30th, 2018, 12:13 pm

Vagueperson wrote:
May 30th, 2018, 6:51 am
The Rush Line has started its local station area planning meetings with community members to refine where to put the stations. They have also sent out confirmations to people on the Community Advisory Committee (I'll be on it).
I'll be joining you!

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Re: Rush Line Corridor BRT

Postby mamundsen » June 8th, 2018, 1:37 pm

Route 54 extension starts tomorrow. It will be interesting to hear how it goes. A single seat ride from Maplewood Mall to the Airport is great! Although I wonder how long that ride would be end to end, I can’t find the schedule.

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Re: Rush Line Corridor BRT

Postby MSPtoMKE » June 8th, 2018, 3:09 pm

Between 1:05 to 1:10 for MOA to Maplewood Mall, about 10 mins less to MSP.
https://www.metrotransit.org/Data/Sites ... 40/054.pdf
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Re: Rush Line Corridor BRT

Postby Vagueperson » July 3rd, 2018, 3:00 pm

At a recent station planning meeting there was a new idea for the Arcade Street stop. As you likely know, Phalen Blvd travels under the Arcade St bridge between Vertical Endeavors and the old 3M site. This isn't a great placement for a BRT stop. There were 4 possible station arrangements discussed:
1) Bus station underneath the Arcade St bridge with elevators moving riders to and from the station.
2) Ramps/Bridges taking the BRT up to the top of the Arcade St bridge and a new intersection on the bridge.
3) Taking the BRT route along Wells St on the east, through Seeger Square, and back to Phalen via Neid Lane on the west. This would put the station at approximately Neid Lane & Arcade St.
4) Create a ramp/bridge on the east side of the Arcade St bridge so the BRT can go north on Arcade for a station at Neid/Arcade, then continue west on Neid Lane to rejoin Phalen Blvd.

The attendees overwhelmingly favored the 4th option, which takes the bus up Arcade Street and back down Neid Lane. The thought is it will slow down the overall trip, but it will provide the best access of residents that live near the station stop and has the best potential for economic development. Downside is that it is further from the planned employee center on the old 3M site.
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A previous meeting discussed whether to put the Phalen Village stop at Maryland Avenue or at Johnson/Phalen. This was a little less cut and dried for the group, but it appeared most favored a stop near Johnson/Phalen to provide access to the Hmong Village Shopping Center and still be close to the new businesses / residences at Phalen Village. A Maryland Ave stop would help with transfers to the 64/54, but hopefully those transfers can happen at the Arcade St and Payne Ave stops, and there's little reason to force duplicate connections in such short proximity if there's another good station location.


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