Road Crime

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Re: Road Crime

Postby grant1simons2 » May 17th, 2016, 4:16 pm

Crashed into the other car, fled the scene of the crash, kids ejected from the car (were they even wearing seat belts?).

I'm more curious to know if there were drugs or alcohol involved. Once again, a majority of what happens in nerf wars is just finding someone at a park and getting them out. Or getting them while they're at a friends house or McDonalds. Should we ban the game, or should the game ban cars? When our high school did it, we banned cars (meaning no drive by shooting, or shooting while driving).

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Re: Road Crime

Postby matthew5080 » May 21st, 2016, 11:27 am

I'm still amazed at how many high schoolers come into my Target looking for Nerf Guns so they can participate in the Nerf Wars. Some coworkers even play, and openly admit to using their cars during the game. I'm not against the game itself, but the use of the car.

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Re: Road Crime

Postby schmitzm03 » May 21st, 2016, 8:04 pm

Strib actually has a relatively decent piece discussing pedestrian safety in the metro:http://www.startribune.com/in-crashes-t ... 380345481/

No discussion of how the built environment affects pedestrian safety (other than what is implied by stats showing higher fatality rates/pedestrian crash in the suburbs).

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Re: Road Crime

Postby mattaudio » June 8th, 2016, 8:13 am

W. T. F. St. Paul

Woman struck, killed in St. Paul crosswalk at Arkwright and Cayuga
St. Paul drivers have hit 65 pedestrians this year.
http://www.startribune.com/pedestrian-s ... 382152561/

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Re: Road Crime

Postby talindsay » June 9th, 2016, 10:41 am

I was just thinking the other day about how much worse pedestrian safety seems to be in St. Paul than in Minneapolis, though I don't have data. Many streets in St. Paul are missing proper crosswalks in obvious places, and instead rely on a toothless claim that cars should stop for pedestrians trying to cross the streets without proper crosswalks. Cleveland and Fairview seem to be especially bad, but of course Snelling (!!!) has all sorts of places where pedestrians aren't given any ability to actually stop traffic and are instead provided with orange flags on either side. Sure, cars *should* stop, but I hate relying on a flag against a stream of heavy traffic that's probably moving too fast.

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Re: Bicycle Infrastructure

Postby MattW » June 9th, 2016, 3:25 pm

Semi-recent news out of Kalamazoo, Michigan. Driver swerves into a pack of nine cyclists, kills five, seriously injures four others. Absolutely horrendous. No indication if alcohol was a factor in this. They usually get that to press pretty quickly so I'm assuming it wasn't. Just more justification for proper bicycle infrastructure.

http://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/ind ... ws_article

Not sure if this is the correct place to share this (mods please move if it isn't)

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Re: Road Crime

Postby seanrichardryan » June 9th, 2016, 8:28 pm

St. Paul has fewer stoplights for one and a seemingly ignorant county in charge of many of the roads.
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Re: Road Crime

Postby mister.shoes » June 9th, 2016, 10:57 pm

Also 100,000 fewer residents and [some large number] fewer jobs in about the same land area. Which means far fewer peds for drivers to pay attention for. Add all that to sean's reasons and it's a bad recipe.
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Re: Road Crime

Postby RailBaronYarr » June 10th, 2016, 7:57 am

And even still, St Paul's ped/bike fatality rates per capita (not sure about per mile walked/biked) are far lower than many major cities in the US. [insert comment here about comparing central city statistics because population and size vary] If you combined Minneapolis and St Paul to make the land area and population more comparable to other metros' central cities, this would still hold true. Just really baffling to think about how bad it must be other places.

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Re: Road Crime

Postby mattaudio » June 10th, 2016, 8:15 am

So based on @mikesonn tweets it sounds like Ramsey County has a traffic engineer, Jim Toolas, who is stuck in the 1970s and is digging in his heels. Frustrating series of tweets.

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Re: Road Crime

Postby lordmoke » June 11th, 2016, 5:24 pm

Real nasty car-on-bike crash at first and Hennepin earlier. Cops had part of Hennepin closed, ambulance, mangled bike, photographing of evidence. Hopefully the cyclist isn't doing too badly. That area in front of the bridge is so hostile to non-motorized traffic.

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Re: Road Crime

Postby acs » June 11th, 2016, 5:31 pm

Apparently it was the other way around, Bike on car. Biker in critical condition after running the red light and smacking into a car.

http://www.startribune.com/bicyclist-in ... 382583861/

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Re: Road Crime

Postby FISHMANPET » June 11th, 2016, 7:59 pm

Nice to see Strib made the wise decision to not have comments on the article.

I realize man bites dog etc etc but why is this news when a car running a red light and hitting another car isn't news.

The nice thing about a biker being an idiot on city streets is that it's hard for them to do much damage to anybody but themselves. A car being an idiot on city streets is far more dangerous.
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Re: Road Crime

Postby David Greene » June 15th, 2016, 4:04 pm

It's usually news when there are serious injuries. But car-on-car on city streets usually doesn't cause serious injuries.

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Re: Road Crime

Postby seanrichardryan » June 15th, 2016, 4:35 pm

High speed chase this morning down Cretin Avenue ended on the SW corner of Jefferson. 100+ mph.

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Re: Road Crime

Postby jebr » June 15th, 2016, 5:24 pm

Why would Metro Transit police be involved?

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Re: Road Crime

Postby cond8147 » June 16th, 2016, 9:39 am

Metro Transit police were involved because they were the ones chasing the car. They are cops and have the exact same authority as any Minneapolis or Saint Paul cops.

Also, scanner traffic reported this was about 12:30p and it never exceeded 55-60mph. Sounded like the driver wasn't quite sure whether they wanted to run or not since it only lasted about 1 minute at (relatively) slow speeds.

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Re: Road Crime

Postby seanrichardryan » June 16th, 2016, 9:51 am

My neighbor brought it to my attention. Names of the innocent redacted.

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Re: Road Crime

Postby FISHMANPET » June 16th, 2016, 9:54 am

A road where you can do 80 (or 60 or 100 or whatever it was) without crashing into a street pole or building or parked car or curb or something within a half a second is in and of itself a road crime.
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Re: Road Crime

Postby grant1simons2 » June 16th, 2016, 9:56 am

4th Street Southeast!


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