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Re: Public Transit News and Current Happenings

Postby FISHMANPET » February 24th, 2017, 5:08 pm

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Re: Public Transit News and Current Happenings

Postby FranklinAveFixation » February 24th, 2017, 6:56 pm

Monday's Transportation Committee meeting has an update about the fare increase. Apparently a policy study was conducted a few years ago, which suggested a simpler fare system by eliminating peak fares, all day reduced fares, local fares for reverse commute express buses, low income discounts, modify discounts for stored value, get rid of free paper transfers (GoTo only)
They forgot the college student passes, or do the colleges subsidize them? Not that I'm in favor of it, but college students are paying next to nothing per ride if they use those passes 6-7 days a week.

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Re: Public Transit News and Current Happenings

Postby intercomnut » February 24th, 2017, 7:31 pm

One last thing that I would like to see is fare capping in lieu of passes. This would give lower-income people the benefits of passes without requiring the larger upfront purchase cost of the pass. Also it would simplify product provision significantly, as there would only be the bus fare listed, no pass prices.
Looks like that's similar to what TriMet is testing with their new smart card. So it's definitely possible.

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Re: Public Transit News and Current Happenings

Postby Scott Wood » February 25th, 2017, 5:12 pm

The new ones seem to work better for me personally, but I don't ride the bus often enough to have a good sample size. But they seem to get a read faster than the old ones. I used to have to hold my wallet against the reader as I walked into the bus and now as soon as I put my wallet there it beeps and I can pull it away immediately.
The new validators seem to work well with the new cards, but before I replaced my old-style card I was constantly getting read errors from the new validators. With the old validators I'd only get an error if I accidentally touched the card to the validator at an odd angle, but with the new validators trying to read from farther away, it would error out before I could get the card anywhere close.

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Re: Public Transit News and Current Happenings

Postby Rube Dali » February 27th, 2017, 5:39 pm

This has bothered me for sometime, but the so-called temporary detour of route 68 on Jackson Street in St. Paul is still ongoing. I didn't get a clear response on why the detour was in effect when I asked an operator last year and an wondering when it will stop.
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Re: Public Transit News and Current Happenings

Postby intercomnut » February 27th, 2017, 7:05 pm

This has bothered me for sometime, but the so-called temporary detour of route 68 on Jackson Street in St. Paul is still ongoing. I didn't get a clear response on why the detour was in effect when I asked an operator last year and an wondering when it will stop.
If you email Metro Transit, they should be able to find the answer for you.

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Re: Public Transit News and Current Happenings

Postby Tcmetro » March 4th, 2017, 10:39 am

Metro Transit has modified the West End plan, and is now recommending implementation for August.

Changes:

9 - Simplified to two branches; one to Louisiana/394, the other to Cedar Lake/Hopkins Crossroad. Peak service every 20 minutes, Off-peak service every 30 minutes. Peak and reverse peak service to Cedar Lake/Hopkins Crossroad provided by 643/663.

25 - Terminal from Lake/France moved to Cedar Lake Condos to replace Rt. 649. Replaces 9H service on 26th St. Reverse commute trips eliminated. Service from St. Louis Park and Kenwood will be reduced to 4 AM inbound and 4 PM outbound trips.

604 - No change in proposal. Shortened to Louisiana/394 and extending service span by one hour in both the morning and evening.

645 - No change in proposal. Rt. 675 will now stop at West End and will be renumbered to 645.

649 - Eliminated. Use Rt. 9 or 25.

Upcoming Open House:
West End and Route 9 Transit Study Open House: Recommended Plan
March 21, 2017, 5 - 6:30 p.m. (Presentation at 5:30 p.m.)
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1625 West End Boulevard,
St. Louis Park, MN 55416

https://www.metrotransit.org/west-end

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Re: Public Transit News and Current Happenings

Postby Qhaberl » March 7th, 2017, 3:09 pm

http://finance-commerce.com/2017/03/tra ... akup-vote/. I saw the above article on finance and commerce. About a week ago, I read an article on the streets MN main fourm talking about the metro transit bus reductions. It mention that metro transit is currently facing and $80 million budget deficit. I noticed in the article from finance and commerce, that wants the CTIB is dissolved, Hennepin county would receive an additional $60 million per year. That would mean that metro transit's budget deficit would only be 20 million, correct?


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Re: Public Transit News and Current Happenings

Postby Tcmetro » March 7th, 2017, 3:41 pm

http://finance-commerce.com/2017/03/tra ... akup-vote/. I saw the above article on finance and commerce. About a week ago, I read an article on the streets MN main fourm talking about the metro transit bus reductions. It mention that metro transit is currently facing and $80 million budget deficit. I noticed in the article from finance and commerce, that wants the CTIB is dissolved, Hennepin county would receive an additional $60 million per year. That would mean that metro transit's budget deficit would only be 20 million, correct?


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I'm not sure about the rules now that the counties are handling the transit tax, so I'm not sure that Hennepin County would be able to give operating funds to Metro Transit. Also, the counties want to use these dollars to pay for the construction costs of the next round of lines (Blue Ext, Green Ext, Orange, Gold, Riverview, Rush), so I can't imagine that they would just hand the money over. Lastly, Metro Transit serves five counties (the same ones that have a transit tax), so I would imagine any county support of the bus system would have to be split proportionally.

Simply put, CTIB dissolution doesn't mean or guarantee Metro Transit operating support.

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Re: Public Transit News and Current Happenings

Postby twincitizen » March 10th, 2017, 10:50 am

Route 679 Twins express will not be operated this year. I'm sure it made sense in 2010-11 with sold out crowds, but was probably pretty empty the last couple years. It always seemed like a very specific subsidy to Twins fans in the 394 corridor. Route 675 (soon to be re-named 645) does provide all-day service between CR-73 P&R and downtown, BUT as currently scheduled it doesn't actually run late enough to get people home after a night game. They'd probably need to add a minimum of two additional westbound trips at the end of the night, as the last bus leaves the North Loop at 9pm on weekdays and 8pm on Saturdays...

Green Line maintenance: Beginning at 6:45 p.m. Friday, March 24 buses will replace Green Line trains from Snelling Avenue to Stadium Village stations. Trains will resume again by 5:00 a.m. on Monday, March 27.

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Re: Public Transit News and Current Happenings

Postby intercomnut » March 12th, 2017, 10:26 pm

Bottineau neighborhood in NE is pushing back on Metro Transit's plan to reroute express buses onto E River Road and Marshall during 94 construction.

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Re: Public Transit News and Current Happenings

Postby Tcmetro » March 14th, 2017, 5:49 pm

I put together a table of average weekday ridership for Metro Transit routes from their Fall 2015 file from the Minnesota Geospatial Commons. I can't seem to attach the pdf I made, but here are the top routes:

Green - 40509
Blue - 32688
5 - 17808
21 - 13899
18 - 12802
6 - 10802
10 - 9789
19 - 7969
3 - 7952
17 - 7789
4 - 7079
22 - 6695
2 - 6600
14 - 6047
64 - 5790
74 - 5171

Somewhat interestingly, Northstar is the best performing peak only route, with 2585 riders per weekday.

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Re: Public Transit News and Current Happenings

Postby Qhaberl » March 14th, 2017, 5:56 pm

I would be interested to know if route 2 has increased in ridership since going HI- Freq.


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Re: Public Transit News and Current Happenings

Postby talindsay » March 14th, 2017, 6:10 pm

What's the number for the A line? I thought it was above 5k, but maybe I'm remembering wrong.

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Re: Public Transit News and Current Happenings

Postby Tcmetro » March 14th, 2017, 6:11 pm

The latest data is from Fall 2015, pre A Line. Fall 2015 #84 ridership was 4362/day.

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Re: Public Transit News and Current Happenings

Postby talindsay » March 14th, 2017, 6:25 pm

Ha, you'd said fall 2015, I wasn't paying attention. Thank you.

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Re: Public Transit News and Current Happenings

Postby RailBaronYarr » March 14th, 2017, 9:17 pm

Per this, the A Line + 84 had ~5,400 per weekday https://www.metrotransit.org/metro-tran ... on-in-2016 and back when the line opened the A Line had 85% of trips (http://www.twincities.com/2016/08/02/sn ... nsit-says/), so it's likely somewhere around 4,500 for just the A Line now.

But also good god the 5 should have skipped right past aBRT and gone straight to LRT.

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Re: Public Transit News and Current Happenings

Postby DanPatchToget » March 14th, 2017, 10:15 pm

They should skip past ABRT and LRT and go with heavy rail along Route 5, but I guess I'm thinking too far ahead. ABRT will be okay, but with the ridership Route 5 gets right now I'll think "what if".

And didn't Metro Transit just reduce frequency on Route 5?

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Re: Public Transit News and Current Happenings

Postby Tiller » March 14th, 2017, 10:58 pm

But also good god the 5 should have skipped right past aBRT and gone straight to LRT.
I'd be curious to find the ridership/mile along these bus routes since it would give a better idea of where we *should* (not that we will in the foreseeable future) upgrade to LRT.

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Re: Public Transit News and Current Happenings

Postby intercomnut » March 14th, 2017, 11:34 pm

But also good god the 5 should have skipped right past aBRT and gone straight to LRT.
I'd be curious to find the ridership/mile along these bus routes since it would give a better idea of where we *should* (not that we will in the foreseeable future) upgrade to LRT.
That would be good. Ridership for the 5 overall has been dropping quickly. And it's got high ridership because of it's length, but there are other routes that are more productive per mile and per in-service hour.

But if they stay close to what's proposed for the D Line, the frequency changes will be reversed and the Hi Frequency part will be extended all the way to Brooklyn Center. Hopefully that plus faster speeds and more reliability will reverse the ridership trends.


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