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Re: Public Transit News and Current Happenings

Posted: January 17th, 2017, 2:18 pm
by SkyScraperKid
I am interested in finding statistics about individual bus routes performance year-over-year. Is there an easy way about going about finding that?


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yea, that would be interesting to look at. I don't think they track that kinda data, wish they did.

Re: Public Transit News and Current Happenings

Posted: January 17th, 2017, 4:56 pm
by twincitizen
They definitely have that data. I think they sometimes publicly release data on the Top 10 routes, etc., but it doesn't always get the fanfare of the overall ridership numbers. But you can get it if you know who to ask.

Here's 2014 data: https://streets.mn/2015/01/28/chart-of- ... ship-2014/

Re: Public Transit News and Current Happenings

Posted: January 18th, 2017, 9:08 am
by RailBaronYarr
There's also boardings and alightings data, which is a bit more cumbersome to use, but very detailed: https://gisdata.mn.gov/dataset/us-mn-st ... alightings

It has data by weekday vs Sat vs Sun, ons and offs by route for every bus and light rail stop they serve.

Re: Public Transit News and Current Happenings

Posted: January 18th, 2017, 2:09 pm
by Tiller
Thought I'd share something I just stumbled across: https://imgur.com/a/bzHzU

There is apparently a 64P that runs once a day on weekdays from Johnson High School at 3:12pm to WBA/Hillcrest at 3:24pm.

Re: Public Transit News and Current Happenings

Posted: January 18th, 2017, 5:58 pm
by Tcmetro
There are a number of extras from St. Paul high schools now that SPPS has joined the Student Pass program. Other lines with extras in St. Paul include the 74 and the 61.

Re: Public Transit News and Current Happenings

Posted: January 19th, 2017, 9:07 am
by talindsay
Wish they'd include the middle schools in that.

Re: Public Transit News and Current Happenings

Posted: January 21st, 2017, 6:50 am
by DanPatchToget
Bus crashed into house in Columbia Heights-http://www.startribune.com/bus-crashes- ... 411380785/

Metro Transit says the bus wasn't theirs, so I'm guessing First Transit.

Its still too early to say what the cause of this crash was, but I'm beginning to be concerned about the safety record of First Transit. Twice I've had First Transit drivers try to run a red light from a complete stop. Once at Killebrew Drive & 24th Avenue (Route 539) and the other yesterday at Raymond & Energy Park Drive (Route 87).

Re: Public Transit News and Current Happenings

Posted: January 21st, 2017, 9:16 am
by SamtheBusNerd
It was a First-run Anoka County Traveler route. Looking at the house on google maps, I wouldn't be surprised if the driver hit a patch of ice going downhill and lost control.

As someone who's worked for First Transit, I don't think the safety practices there are any worse than at Metro Transit or any of the other operators. There are good and bad drivers at all of them, and all of them are overworking their drivers due to driver shortages. One thing that I have noticed, though, is that a lot of the scheduling for routes is completely unrealistic and encourages drivers to drive poorly to make their timepoints. That's an issue with the Metro Transit scheduling staff, not the contractors who drive the routes.

Re: Public Transit News and Current Happenings

Posted: January 21st, 2017, 12:01 pm
by jebr
The First Transit routes seem a lot more tightly scheduled than the Metro Transit routes, though. I'm not sure if that's just a fluke or if First Transit schedules more aggressively. (I'm not sure what influence Metro Transit has on them, or if the scheduling is contracted to First Transit along with the route.)

Re: Public Transit News and Current Happenings

Posted: January 22nd, 2017, 8:29 am
by SamtheBusNerd
I would imagine that it's just a fluke. Metro Transit does all scheduling in house, including for the contracted regional routes. The contracts for the regional routes are basically just for the day to day operation of them, and even then a lot of things like signage, detours, etc are still under direct Metro Transit control.

Re: Public Transit News and Current Happenings

Posted: January 25th, 2017, 12:37 pm
by Tcmetro
$208 million of federal funds from the Regional Solicitation have been matched with $205 million of local funds. Transit projects are:
  • Arterial BRT improvements on Hennepin, Lake, Penn, and Chicago
  • Eden Prairie Town Center LRT Station
  • Rt. 63 (Grand-E 3rd) service improvement
  • SW Transit Mall of America express service
  • Heywood II bus garage
  • Regional Communications Improvement
https://metrocouncil.org/Transportation ... jects.aspx
https://metrocouncil.org/News-Events/Tr ... ea-pr.aspx
https://metrocouncil.org/Transportation ... urce=child

Re: Public Transit News and Current Happenings

Posted: January 25th, 2017, 12:48 pm
by grant1simons2
Federal funds that were approved?

Re: Public Transit News and Current Happenings

Posted: January 25th, 2017, 1:42 pm
by Tcmetro
There has been a year long process to determine appropriate projects, so I would imagine that the funds are available.

Re: Public Transit News and Current Happenings

Posted: January 25th, 2017, 3:51 pm
by grant1simons2
Hmm...

Re: Public Transit News and Current Happenings

Posted: February 13th, 2017, 3:45 pm
by billhelm
Metro Transit sent some people to Houston to observe Super Bowl transit operations. Some early findings in this strib article. http://www.startribune.com/metro-transi ... 413627623/

Re: Public Transit News and Current Happenings

Posted: February 14th, 2017, 10:23 am
by Tcmetro
SW Transit is making some changes on March 6th:

Line 638 - Shakopee-Amazon-Eden Prairie will be eliminated
Line 687 - SW Village-SW Station-Target North will no longer run on Fridays
Line 684 - 6 AM trip canceled, last PM EB shuttle combined into downtown trip
Line 694 - 4:30 pm trip canceled
690/697/698/699 - minor changes/trip consolidations

http://swtransit.org/route-alerts/expre ... 7-changes/
http://swtransit.org/route-alerts/route ... 7-changes/
http://swtransit.org/route-alerts/route ... 7-changes/
http://swtransit.org/route-alerts/route ... on-3-6-17/
http://swtransit.org/route-alerts/route-687/

Re: Public Transit News and Current Happenings

Posted: February 14th, 2017, 10:44 am
by DanPatchToget
Sad but not too surprising with 638 ending.

With the funding for Southwest Station-MOA service I wonder if it will be an express route or make stops in between.

Re: Public Transit News and Current Happenings

Posted: February 20th, 2017, 10:25 am
by DanPatchToget
Anyone know when Metro Transit will retire the Gillig Phantom buses? I thought all of them were gone but my commute to school (Route 589) had one.

Re: Public Transit News and Current Happenings

Posted: February 21st, 2017, 6:56 pm
by grrdanko
Speaking of fares a bill was introduced in the House to require transit within the 7 county metro area to have at least an 80% farebox recovery ratio.

https://www.revisor.mn.gov/bills/text.p ... rsion=list

Re: Public Transit News and Current Happenings

Posted: February 21st, 2017, 7:50 pm
by acs
80% is ridiculous, but in 2017 the Met Council only expects to get 17% of funding through fares. That has to improve greatly or the Met Council loses a lot of leverage in these debates. We've seen proposals for a fare increase but no info yet on how that would move the farebox recovery ratio.

http://www.startribune.com/citizens-lea ... 414404383/