Bottineau LRT (Blue Line Extension)

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Re: Bottineau LRT (Blue Line Extension)

Postby mattaudio » February 28th, 2017, 1:20 pm

Doesn't it seem like some of these stations would be far more valuable as TOD pads rather than surface park and rides? I'm thinking Golden Valley Road specifically. You could fit 200+ units on that little triangle, in place of ~90 vehicles.

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Re: Bottineau LRT (Blue Line Extension)

Postby amiller92 » February 28th, 2017, 1:26 pm

That station is downright weird anyway. It's surrounded by park and the backside of the golf course. At least if they built something in that parcel there'd be a reason to use that station.

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Re: Bottineau LRT (Blue Line Extension)

Postby Vagueperson » February 28th, 2017, 2:36 pm

Duh, that station is for getting to your car.

Also, I couldn't stand to watch that video - 80% of it is just suburban flyover.

This reminds me why I much prefer the streetcar plans to these regional suburb links. Vehicle type isn't what's important, it's the regional vs. core service levels.

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Re: Bottineau LRT (Blue Line Extension)

Postby Tcmetro » June 9th, 2017, 7:51 am

Presentation posted for next Monday's Transportation Committee meeting. The schedule has been pushed back a bit, with the opening in 2022 now.

https://metrocouncil.org/Council-Meetin ... pdate.aspx

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Re: Bottineau LRT (Blue Line Extension)

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Re: Bottineau LRT (Blue Line Extension)

Postby sean » September 20th, 2017, 5:33 pm

MPRB planning committee suggests approving the easement for the BLRT parking lot on that triangle of parkland in GV:
Resolution Granting 2.635 Acres of Permanent Easements and 10.810 Acres of
Temporary Easements Within Theodore Wirth Regional Park and Glenview
Terrace Park Associated with the METRO Blue Line Extension Light Rail Project,
for a Fee of $690,245, Pending District Court Approval of Permanent Easements
I wish we had a no-net-loss rule here. A parking lot is pretty much the worst use for parkland I can imagine.
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Re: Bottineau LRT (Blue Line Extension)

Postby Bakken2016 » October 25th, 2017, 9:10 am

http://www.startribune.com/lrt-work-wil ... 453006783/

Utility work being done to prepare for heavy construction.

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Re: Bottineau LRT (Blue Line Extension)

Postby talindsay » October 25th, 2017, 9:21 am

I wonder if Met Council would allow this to slip ahead of SW if there continue to be issues with SW and this one reaches that point.

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Re: Bottineau LRT (Blue Line Extension)

Postby Silophant » October 25th, 2017, 10:01 am

As I understand it, they're separate, independent projects. If SWLRT keeps getting delayed, there's no reason BBLRT couldn't get ahead of it.

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Re: Bottineau LRT (Blue Line Extension)

Postby tmart » January 16th, 2018, 11:32 am

The suburbs along the Bottineau line are actually pushing to get it built, and are a bit frustrated that SWLRT has seemingly pushed this project back.

http://www.startribune.com/twin-cities- ... 468507343/

Kind of refreshing to see this kind of local support.

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Re: Bottineau LRT (Blue Line Extension)

Postby Bakken2016 » January 17th, 2018, 11:45 am

https://www.hometownsource.com/sun_post ... ef6d0.html

I agree with Robbinsdale, this should be more than just a giant parking structure. Disable your javascript if you would like to read the article.

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Re: Bottineau LRT (Blue Line Extension)

Postby Bakken2016 » February 8th, 2018, 10:17 pm

BNSF has possibly pulled out from the Blue Line Extension, the below article is the only one I can find.


http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2018/02/0 ... rce=social


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Re: Bottineau LRT (Blue Line Extension)

Postby DanPatchToget » February 8th, 2018, 10:42 pm

Now what was the reason for them backing out? Wanted another crashwall, anti-rail GOP legislators wanted them to back out in an attempt to kill this project, or something else? The Monticello Sub. is only used by two roundtrip freights per day; one a very short segment and connecting with the Luce Line (operated by Union Pacific), and one going north towards Albertville (operated by BNSF).

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Re: Bottineau LRT (Blue Line Extension)

Postby mamundsen » February 8th, 2018, 11:49 pm

Here's another story:

https://www.hometownsource.com/sun_post ... 1d61a.html
BNSF refuses to negotiate with Bottineau Blue Line on right-of-way use

“BNSF is not prepared to proceed with any discussion of passenger rail in this corridor at this time,” wrote BNSF vice president and senior general council Richard E. Weicher in a letter dated Jan. 9, 2018.

“As we explained in discussions some time ago, we do not believe the Blue Line light rail project would be consistent with our passenger principles or protect the long-term viability of freight service along the Monticello Subdivision,” Weicher wrote.
Lots of information and good quotes in the article. Go read it.

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Re: Bottineau LRT (Blue Line Extension)

Postby Anondson » February 9th, 2018, 7:26 am

If this has been their position for a long time, it is epically irresponsible to spend government effort planning this to the extent we have, spending millions, unless there is some way to override the rail company.

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Re: Bottineau LRT (Blue Line Extension)

Postby Bakken2016 » February 9th, 2018, 8:08 am

Got some insight from a friend that works in the project office for Blue Line Extension, the media is blowing it out proportion, and they received a letter to start negotiations, and not a refusal to negotiate.


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Re: Bottineau LRT (Blue Line Extension)

Postby Anondson » February 9th, 2018, 8:21 am

Can someone write an explainer why it makes sense to hold something like starting rail negotiations until this late in the planning and design?

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Re: Bottineau LRT (Blue Line Extension)

Postby Multimodal » February 9th, 2018, 8:45 am

Headline: CRISIS!

Article: This is a normal and expected situation.

Result: clickbait.

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Re: Bottineau LRT (Blue Line Extension)

Postby Mikey » February 9th, 2018, 8:52 am

Kinda sounds like BNSF just wants the land to build their wye w/ CP in return for the right to build in their corridor.

Maybe the county saw this coming, really buying the land as a cheap negotiating ploy?

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Re: Bottineau LRT (Blue Line Extension)

Postby DanPatchToget » February 9th, 2018, 8:59 am

But BNSF and CP already built the alternative to the Crystal connection. Not surprisingly people in NE Minneapolis were pissed, but its a situation where NIMBYs have to pick their poison. So why would BNSF still want that connection?


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