Re: Bike Share
Posted: September 2nd, 2018, 5:27 pm
are the blue nice ride bikes like camouflaged? Cause I have not found one yet... will keep searching and watching but...
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have you seen any of the hubs getting installed? Have not seen any of them myself yet.I don't believe the dockless bikes have been released yet. They've got a lot of Hubs to paint.
I guess the idea of the hub is it's cheap to create a hub since all you need is paint, but you still get the dependability of having a hub. I personally prefer the dependability of a hub over having bikes in random places and never knowing if one will be available when I need them.According to the map, it doesn’t look like people are parking them in the hubs. I still don’t fully understand the idea of the hum. In my opinion, I feel like it contradicts the whole idea of dockless share.
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The University of Minnesota campus allows the NiceRide "dockless" to be parked at any bike rack, so that is why it looks like they aren't at docks.According to the map, it doesn’t look like people are parking them in the hubs. I still don’t fully understand the idea of the hum. In my opinion, I feel like it contradicts the whole idea of dockless share.
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One can hope!Maybe the next step could be... Allowing any public bike rack to be a dock...
A hub doesn't necessarily mean there is a bike but it makes it easier to plan trips. It's nice know when I get off a bus that more often than not a bike will be there. With totally dock less bikes it's harder to count on the bikes as a serious form of transportation.As for finding a bike if there's no hub, you need to use the app anyway, which will tell you where the bikes are, and the presence off a hub doesn't mean there will be bikes there (there were none at the 46th St Station this morning and one at the hub at 21st and Bloomington last night).
at first thought I would have agreed, however it's a bad idea. Putting more bikes into our already at and above capacity bike racks and public bike parking spaces is a slippery slope, more so when NiceRide starts pushing more and more bikes into the network. What we need is the duel system. Bike parking is well established through hard work, now we need to invest the work to build of the bikeshare hub network. Businesses should be able to sponsor a 100-250 buck bike hub and help support the system by maintaining the space. And in return they get to be rewarded with the increased traffic they get and increased customer satisfaction by having the bike hub. There is no reason why Target can't agree to sponsor a bike hub next to their storefront on nicollet mall and on lake street where they typically would park extra shopping carts (typical suburb store format location) In the bigger picture and long term I think hubs are a genius idea. The problem right now I noticed since the roll out is the hub network is laughably small, it needs time to be rolled out fully and time to expand based on the needs of the system. I imagine we will have 7-12 bike hubs for a few years, until we can start getting it pinpointed and having 2-6 bike hubs nearly on every block. With affordable pricing of 75 bucks a year who could NOT take ownership and feel this is OUR SYSTEM and have a sense of pride. If that occurs we might be seeing community members who use the system volunteering to help maintain a hub station (keeping it clear, making sure the sign is clean and visible, repainting lines every few years, as it does not require much work) which perhaps would entane a discounted membership of 10-20 bucks? Maybe i'm ignorant, but I think bike hubs long term is going to be insanely successful and will become more of a status symbol in neighborhoods as they increase property values due to the increased mobility opportunity.Maybe the next step could be... Allowing any public bike rack to be a dock...
Dockless hubs also show up on the app with a real time bike count- so no guessing either.
A hub doesn't necessarily mean there is a bike but it makes it easier to plan trips. It's nice know when I get off a bus that more often than not a bike will be there. With totally dock less bikes it's harder to count on the bikes as a serious form of transportation.
I guess I am just more in favor of expanding hub locations.We already have a system of fixed location bike stations. The point of dockless, with enough bikes, is they can be pretty much everywhere. Hubs only stand in the way of them actually working like that.
Yea, and NiceRide is already saying with the much much lower costs for each hub instead of bike station they can have many more. So there is no reason why we can't have a hub just about ever 2 block along moderate to high traffic areas and 3-4 in yet to develop (in usage) areas. neighborhoods, businesses, and local investors could easily raise 100-250 bucks for the upfront cost and/or possibly just double that number to ensure that there is funds for upkeep over the years as well. I think within 10 years we could see hubs in other cities in the metro too. It has the potential to be a staple in our metro area, one of the best biking (if not number one still) metro areas in the US.I guess I am just more in favor of expanding hub locations.We already have a system of fixed location bike stations. The point of dockless, with enough bikes, is they can be pretty much everywhere. Hubs only stand in the way of them actually working like that.
We don't need to add posts to lock to, as that just adds more expense to the "hub" system. And it essentially makes them docked bikes.The only change I would think they need to consider is long term installing posts into each hub parking space that the bike be locked to as a way of preventing them from moving once locked. There is no reason why sombody could pick up a bike and move it into an area that makes sombody want to report that bike as being parked incorrectly and the last user is out 5 bucks! I say this because I have had homeless people try asking me to let him have my nice ride bike since I was just going to lock it up anyways. I said no and locked it up, I could easily see him or sombody else wanting to "punish" me or sombody else by moving it and then I would get charged 5 bucks for wrongful parking. That probably won't happen to much but if there are many anti-bike activists from the suburbs could do a lot of damage to users experience really quick.