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Re: Mayo Expansion Proposal - Rochester

Posted: August 8th, 2019, 7:08 pm
by TroyGBiv
It really does. It just seems that the Northstar should be finished to St Cloud and then continue to Northfield and Rochester.

Re: Mayo Expansion Proposal - Rochester

Posted: August 8th, 2019, 7:10 pm
by TroyGBiv
Another good source for Rochester updates is https://www.medcitybeat.com/ ... this blog has been sourced a couple times over the years regarding Rochester development in the news...

Re: Mayo Expansion Proposal - Rochester

Posted: August 8th, 2019, 8:21 pm
by mattaudio
I don't know why we're so hung up on new rails to Rochester. I don't know why you have to compete with drive times when being on a train means you don't have to sit behind a windshield and focus on driving. Service just has to be comfortable, reliable, and conveniently timed.

With Canadian Pacific's purchase of DM&E (the old Chicago & Northwestern line along the Hwy 14 corridor) and their combination of dedicated tracks and UP trackage rights from Owatonna to St. Paul, it would be relatively easy to run regional trains from Minneapolis to Rochester via SPUD and Owatonna with only one railroad to negotiate with: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1-USub ... sp=sharing

Imagine something like a Brightline service... Minneapolis - St Paul - Northfield - Faribault - Owatonna - Rochester. Maybe a suburban stop in Rosemount. 2.5 hours end-to-end, maybe even down to 2 hours from SPUD to Rochester.

Re: Mayo Expansion Proposal - Rochester

Posted: August 8th, 2019, 8:34 pm
by go4guy
2 hours would be a deal breaker. Have to be able to make the trip in an hour or less. That is why high speed rail is really the only option. If you can make the drive in half the time, it doesnt make enough sense for enough people. Commuting 4 hours + each day would be a deal breaker.

Re: Mayo Expansion Proposal - Rochester

Posted: August 8th, 2019, 8:40 pm
by mattaudio
Commuting 100 miles each way should be a deal breaker no matter the mode. This is more about regional connections than daily commuting.

Re: Mayo Expansion Proposal - Rochester

Posted: August 9th, 2019, 6:43 am
by bubzki2
mattaudio wrote:
August 8th, 2019, 8:40 pm
Commuting 100 miles each way should be a deal breaker no matter the mode. This is more about regional connections than daily commuting.
Those making the 80-mile commute generally aren't doing it by choice. Rochester is still a one-trick pony and is virtually a company town. If you're not a medical professional and your spouse is (or vice-versa), the commutes are going to happen. With that said, even slow rail to the SPUD would be a huge improvement.

Re: Mayo Expansion Proposal - Rochester

Posted: August 9th, 2019, 2:09 pm
by QuietBlue
bubzki2 wrote:
August 9th, 2019, 6:43 am
Those making the 80-mile commute generally aren't doing it by choice. Rochester is still a one-trick pony and is virtually a company town. If you're not a medical professional and your spouse is (or vice-versa), the commutes are going to happen. With that said, even slow rail to the SPUD would be a huge improvement.
I'm curious how many people commute away from Rochester to jobs in the Twin Cities metro, or elsewhere, since I know a lot of people commute to Rochester. It does complicate things when the range of employer types (not just the total number of jobs) is limited, and some of the larger non-Mayo employers there, like IBM, have declined from what they once were.

Re: Mayo Expansion Proposal - Rochester

Posted: August 9th, 2019, 2:25 pm
by bubzki2
When the ZIP rail meetings were still ongoing there were statistics on that. I myself have done the commute both directions and there didn't feel like there was a substantially different amount of flow north vs. south. I think there are more than 2000 daily commutes in BOTH directions, maybe 3000 south and 2000 north but I know it's a big number. Boring drive.

Re: Mayo Expansion Proposal - Rochester

Posted: August 9th, 2019, 4:46 pm
by mplsjaromir
At least there are ample Kwik-Trip locations.

Re: Mayo Expansion Proposal - Rochester

Posted: August 10th, 2019, 7:34 am
by go4guy
When I lived in Rochester, my wife worked at Mayo and I worked for one of the big banks in the cities. I was fortunate enough to be able to work from a Rochester branch most of the time, but would still have to make the commute to the cities very often. I would say it was just as busy going north than traffic coming south. Knew a lot of people that commuted 4-5 times a week to the cities with spouses working at Mayo. It isn't something by choice, but something you have to do if your spouse works at Mayo.

Kwik-Trip is awesome! Miss those now living in Fargo

Re: Mayo Expansion Proposal - Rochester

Posted: August 11th, 2019, 4:24 pm
by Minneboy
It's amazing how much more traffic there is on Hwy 52 then there was when I was growing up. Back in the early 70's my friends and I would ride our bikes along 52 from Zumbrota to Pine Island to go swimming in their pool. Zumbrota got one around 74 or 75. The other highlight for the trip was that my grandparents owned the Pine Island Bakery so there were always treats. We never felt any danger and never got pulled over from a State Trooper. Now a days with cell phones and the amount of traffic, it would never happen. Also Pine Island just opened a pool park where the old pool was.