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Re: Superior Plating site

Postby mplsjaromir » June 29th, 2013, 10:29 am

Foto is the resident brick expert. I trust his judgement.

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Re: Superior Plating site

Postby Nathan » July 1st, 2013, 9:48 am

There were many "Bad" older bricks made out of lighter colored clay. They would have, on their own, absorbed water at a faster rate than a red/brown clay brick would. With general maintenance and tuck pointing these would be in top shape. The second you paint brick it allows moisture to condense inside of the brick (hot air inside cold air outside and vice versa in the summer), and traps it inside, slowly turning the brick into mush. A shame too, because there are plenty of 'breathable' masonry paints out there... IF someone really wanted to paint their brick.

I think you are confusing the sentiment for the building and it's history for people actually liking it's current aesthetic... IF the building was still in its original state, it could make a cool retail node or some interesting re-use. But I think most are on the "well that's too bad" vibe, and excited to see what redevelopment we could get!

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Re: Superior Plating site

Postby mattaudio » July 1st, 2013, 10:11 am

Fotoapparitic have you met Clay Chapman? Got to hear him speak at CNU this year and it was awesome. I want to build my own structural masonry house.
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Re: Superior Plating site

Postby mamundsen » July 1st, 2013, 11:05 am

On the drive by this morning, they were putting up red DANGER tape around this building. It looked like there were some "DANGER AREA" signs posted on the doors too. Any ideas what that is about?

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Re: Superior Plating site

Postby Nathan » July 1st, 2013, 12:29 pm

mattaudio wrote:Fotoapparitic have you met Clay Chapman? Got to hear him speak at CNU this year and it was awesome. I want to build my own structural masonry house.
http://www.placemakers.com/2012/04/02/s ... uare-foot/
I was gonna say... THAT will cost you a pretty penny, but maybe he's on to something! Thanks for the article!

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Re: Superior Plating site

Postby seanrichardryan » July 1st, 2013, 1:12 pm

Danger is usually used with hazardous materials. Likely asbestos.
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Re: Superior Plating site

Postby mattaudio » July 1st, 2013, 1:14 pm

It cannot be high voltage, else danger needs to be repeated a second time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a4gyJsY0mc

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Re: Superior Plating site

Postby MNdible » July 1st, 2013, 1:35 pm

I am happy to report that the above link is exactly what I thought it was.

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Re: Superior Plating site

Postby MplsSteve » December 3rd, 2013, 9:40 am

The Northeaster newspaper reported that on December 12th the current owners will share their plans for cleaning up the site.

http://nenorthnews.com/extraFiles/131204Northeaster.pdf

It will involve removing the building and all of the soil underneath it down to bedrock. If there are no development plans in place after six months, the site will be backfilled with clean soil. The building has been a frequent target for vandals, and recently a portion for the roof collapsed.

I really hope that this site can be redeveloped in the near future. It could be a big transformation for the University/East Hennepin area. Just out of curiosity, how far will they have to go down to get to bedrock?

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Re: Superior Plating site

Postby mattaudio » December 3rd, 2013, 10:03 am

Are they getting any public grants for remediation? From what I can tell, they're doing it on their own. Kudos to that company for doing the right thing and cleaning up their mess, rather than spinning off the site into some subsidiary and letting it go bankrupt.

Also, some traffic calming on 1st Ave NE would go a long way to make this desirable for good development. With the exception of the Red Stag, 1st Ave traffic along its mess of surface parking lots seems to be a barrier preventing development north of Hennepin. Even if we keep the 1st/Hennepin one way couplet, there's a huge opportunity to traffic calm this. Especially if we're going to be doing streetcar work.

Finally, I hope the eventual development here echoes the form of the old trolley barn somewhat... A residential midrise in the middle of the block all the way to the 1st Ave property line, with a podium on each side for retail and rowhouses that's set back with a patio/plaza? Nice.

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Re: Superior Plating site

Postby woofner » December 3rd, 2013, 12:59 pm

MplsSteve wrote:Just out of curiosity, how far will they have to go down to get to bedrock?
The MN Geological Survey is gradually publishing a bevy of maps online, presumably in an effort to make public the fact that the Twin Cities has among the most favorable geological conditions for tunneling:

http://www.mngs.umn.edu/service.htm

According to their depth to bedrock map, the bedrock at the Superior Plating site is 50' deep or less.
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Re: Superior Plating site

Postby MplsSteve » December 3rd, 2013, 2:37 pm

woofner wrote: According to their depth to bedrock map, the bedrock at the Superior Plating site is 50' deep or less.
Thanks, that's interesting to know and an interesting website too.

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Re: Superior Plating site

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Re: Superior Plating site

Postby Nick » January 29th, 2014, 7:56 pm

BREAKING: Porta Potty.

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Re: Superior Plating site

Postby seanrichardryan » January 29th, 2014, 10:37 pm

And a propane powered generator. Probably for the hazmat team that will spend the next year in there.
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Re: Superior Plating site

Postby Didier » January 29th, 2014, 11:34 pm

A Mustang, too.

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Re: Superior Plating site

Postby Nathan » January 30th, 2014, 8:35 am

lamp

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Re: Superior Plating site

Postby TommyT » January 30th, 2014, 9:39 am

LOL, thanks for the laugh!

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Re: Superior Plating site

Postby seanrichardryan » March 1st, 2014, 11:59 pm

Cleanup costs doubling. Greystar out, DLC in.

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