Alia Tower - 200 Central - 483' / 40 Stories

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Re: Alatus St. Anthony Tower (Washburn-McReavy Site)

Postby TommyT » January 28th, 2015, 2:48 pm

if you zoom in, it is clearly a parking ramp. See the ramp coming up to the top level and what would be the stairs and or elevator off to the front right corner of the structure.

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Re: Alatus St. Anthony Tower (Washburn-McReavy Site)

Postby mnmike » January 28th, 2015, 2:57 pm

Looking at these earlier schematic designs...It seems like it maybe be a duplicate of the ramp that is already there, and there is something weird about the rendering? I mean it is the exact same shape as the existing ramp is in these old ones...

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Re: Alatus St. Anthony Tower (Washburn-McReavy Site)

Postby gobezlij » January 28th, 2015, 2:58 pm

I agree, I think the newer rendering is improperly scaled on the satellite image, and the "new" parking structure is actually the existing parking ramp. They share a similar design, including the stairwell that faces 2nd St SE.

Further, 2nd St SE is narrowed in the new rendering (about half as wide as the satellite image over which it is overlaid), and the cars are much smaller than the lanes and the cars you can see in the satellite image.

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Re: Alatus St. Anthony Tower (Washburn-McReavy Site)

Postby mister.shoes » January 28th, 2015, 3:00 pm

gobezlij wrote:I agree, I think the newer rendering is improperly scaled on the satellite image, and the "new" parking structure is actually the existing parking ramp. They share a similar design, including the stairwell that faces 2nd St SE.

Further, 2nd St SE is narrowed in the new rendering (about half as wide as the satellite image over which it is overlaid), and the cars are much smaller than the lanes and the cars you can see in the satellite image.
I think your explanation is correct. They scaled the rendering wrong. Which means... "OMG, IT'S GOING TO BE TALLER THAN IT LOOKS IN THIS PICTURE. WHEE!" *ahem* Sorry.
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Re: Alatus St. Anthony Tower (Washburn-McReavy Site)

Postby robotlollipop » January 28th, 2015, 3:38 pm

It's pretty obvious when you look at the size of those blue cars.

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Re: Alatus St. Anthony Tower (Washburn-McReavy Site)

Postby RailBaronYarr » January 28th, 2015, 4:00 pm

I think the rendering actually proves Central Ave lanes are 20' wide. Never trust Google Measurement Tool.

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Re: Alatus St. Anthony Tower (Washburn-McReavy Site)

Postby nordeast homer » January 28th, 2015, 4:44 pm

Is Skyline really going to be the name of this project? That's the name on the building in the good render.

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Re: Alatus St. Anthony Tower (Washburn-McReavy Site)

Postby EOst » January 28th, 2015, 6:41 pm

So they're covering the ramp in glass, then? I can live with that.

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Re: Alatus St. Anthony Tower (Washburn-McReavy Site)

Postby uptown067 » January 28th, 2015, 8:34 pm

I like the modern design; however they're totally underutilizing this prime site. I can't believe they aren't making the building wider and using the full width of the lot so they can have more skyline facing units.

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Re: Alatus St. Anthony Tower (Washburn-McReavy Site)

Postby nickmgray » January 29th, 2015, 11:07 am

I don't think they are planning to cover the ramp in class. It'll probably be a perforated metal screen which creates a design based on the placement and size of the holes similar to the parking garage screen of the Mountain Dwellings condo building in Copenhagen.

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Re: Alatus St. Anthony Tower (Washburn-McReavy Site)

Postby Nathan » January 29th, 2015, 11:26 am

Ok. Yeah. that totally makes sense that it isn't scaled correctly.

Now that I have that resolved in my mind. WOW. the crown of the building and the design tweaks are actually much nicer.

This is fleshing out really nicely.

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Re: Alatus St. Anthony Tower (Washburn-McReavy Site)

Postby TTT » February 2nd, 2015, 9:50 am

Maybe I've missed this, but are there plans for this project to start anytime soon?

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Re: Alatus St. Anthony Tower (Washburn-McReavy Site)

Postby twincitizen » February 2nd, 2015, 5:34 pm

twincitizen wrote:This has not been approved by the city in any way, shape, or form. That includes needing the HPC to approve demolition of the existing buildings on the site. I am a little surprised they haven't at least gotten that ball rolling. This developer does seem to be able to move quite quickly (see Latitude 45) from concept to execution, but as stated above, if it is indeed condos, that will add another 6-12 months to the timeline to allow for pre-sales. As I noted just over a month ago, Alatus anticipated making a decision on condo vs. rental by the end of the year, so that announcement should be forthcoming. If it's rentals, they could very well go through approvals over the winter and be more than ready to break ground in the spring.
Nothing has changed in 2.5 months. Still hasn't begun the approvals process. They never did make that announcement on the condo vs. rental decision in December as they said they would. Surely that decision has been made by now, but it hasn't been made public for some reason. Perhaps an enterprising forumer could suss that out from the new renderings or other peripheral information. It would mean a difference between 185 units and 250 units.

Hopefully they'll submit applications to the city soon. It's going to take at least 2-3 months to get through HPC, Planning Commission, and City Council. There's a real possibility that the HPC will deny demolition of the funeral home building, meaning that they'd have to appeal that decision to the City Council. Total time from application submittal to final approval (staff review time and through the 3 decision-making bodies) could easily push 3 months. If they don't submit soon, they won't be breaking ground in spring, as they once said they hoped to. As noted above, if it is condos, I'd expect the timeline to be stretched out even further to allow for pre-sales. Considering there is literally next to nothing on the market, I don't think they'll have any trouble at all finding enough buyers. My money is on fall demolition and groundbreaking, at the very soonest.

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Re: Alatus St. Anthony Tower (Washburn-McReavy Site)

Postby xandrex » February 3rd, 2015, 9:21 am

^Regarding condos vs. apartments...

A certain council member let slip during a chat that this was almost certainly condos based on their discussions with Alatus.

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Re: Alatus St. Anthony Tower (Washburn-McReavy Site)

Postby Nathan » February 4th, 2015, 1:06 pm

this article says they have been in negotiations with the ramp and that's their plan but who knows if that's for sure or not?

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Re: Alatus St. Anthony Tower (Washburn-McReavy Site)

Postby TTT » February 5th, 2015, 3:32 pm

That's great info. Spring seems to be a stretch, but it sure would be exciting to see this project get off the ground by summer.

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Re: Alatus St. Anthony Tower (Washburn-McReavy Site)

Postby TroyGBiv » May 11th, 2015, 8:31 pm

Has anyone heard any updates on this project?

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Re: Alatus St. Anthony Tower (Washburn-McReavy Site)

Postby nordeast homer » July 7th, 2015, 2:37 pm

Finance and Commcerce just announced that Alatus has closed on the properties for the tower!!

Bring it on!!

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Re: Alatus St. Anthony Tower (Washburn-McReavy Site)

Postby acs » July 7th, 2015, 2:54 pm

Awesome. Best tower project yet.

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Re: Alatus St. Anthony Tower (Washburn-McReavy Site)

Postby twincitizen » July 7th, 2015, 3:07 pm

Frustrating that the media keeps reporting "40-story tower" when it was announced long ago that they had settled on 35 stories.

Read back to the beginning of this thread - the initial announcement/rumor was 25-30 stories, then it grew to "35-40" and was quickly announced as 35 stories, firm. Obviously this could change again, but the 35-story announcement sure seemed like an official statement at the time. The weird thing is they still haven't announced the condo vs. rental decision. That was supposed to be announced back around Dec/Jan. We'll know the answer to that as soon as we hear an official unit count (~185 vs. ~250, based on previous statements)


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