Alia Tower - 200 Central - 483' / 40 Stories

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Re: 200 Central - Alatus Tower (Washburn-McReavy Site) 483' / 40 Stories

Postby grant1simons2 » March 30th, 2017, 12:21 pm

A judge should not be deciding what height is right for the site. That job was already done multiple times.

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Re: 200 Central - Alatus Tower (Washburn-McReavy Site) 483' / 40 Stories

Postby RailBaronYarr » March 30th, 2017, 12:24 pm

Careful, you might find yourself agreeing with likely SCOTUS justice Gorsuch that "relying on judges and lawyers rather than elected leaders and the ballot box, as the primary means of effecting their social agenda” is a bad idea. ;)

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Re: 200 Central - Alatus Tower (Washburn-McReavy Site) 483' / 40 Stories

Postby amiller92 » March 30th, 2017, 12:51 pm

grant1simons2 wrote:
March 30th, 2017, 12:21 pm
A judge should not be deciding what height is right for the site. That job was already done multiple times.
I've really not followed it, but I'm a bit baffled that those claims are what's left. Because I don't know how a judge can tell the city that it's violating rules that it created but can't modify/amend/create exceptions to.

It would be one thing to allege there were rules that no one thought about, but when the were clearly raised and the exception approved, I don't see a judicial role there either.

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Re: 200 Central - Alatus Tower (Washburn-McReavy Site) 483' / 40 Stories

Postby bapster2006 » March 31st, 2017, 10:38 am

I just read the Memorandum from NEBL's attorney. Just like the other complaint, he tries to throw a ton of information at the court thinking that quantity equals a valid argument. For example, they argued that the new building would block the view of the library, thinking that is somehow important, and not realizing that the one-story funeral home also blocks the view of the library. The judge threw out similar complaints just recently arguing that the city knows what it is doing with its own policies, so I don't think this will be much different.

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Re: 200 Central - Alatus Tower (Washburn-McReavy Site) 483' / 40 Stories

Postby bapster2006 » April 6th, 2017, 11:53 am

Utility locators are on site and painting. "Call before you dig"

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Re: 200 Central - Alatus Tower (Washburn-McReavy Site) 483' / 40 Stories

Postby bapster2006 » April 11th, 2017, 11:04 am

NEBL has asked for a stay of demolition pending an appeal. They feel they still have a good chance of prevailing on appeal.

They also do not have the $3 million bond that Alatus asked the court to impose. Given that they have only raised $100 for appeal, they are asking to pay at most $1000.

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Re: 200 Central - Alatus Tower (Washburn-McReavy Site) 483' / 40 Stories

Postby bapster2006 » April 19th, 2017, 12:43 pm

Construction fence is up around the site.

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Re: 200 Central - Alatus Tower (Washburn-McReavy Site) 483' / 40 Stories

Postby Qhaberl » April 19th, 2017, 1:10 pm

Excellent! Does that mean the judge denied the stay of demolition?


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Re: 200 Central - Alatus Tower (Washburn-McReavy Site) 483' / 40 Stories

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Re: 200 Central - Alatus Tower (Washburn-McReavy Site) 483' / 40 Stories

Postby TroyGBiv » April 19th, 2017, 6:47 pm

They must be planning to hit the ground running when the judge makes a ruling... probably either way...

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Re: 200 Central - Alatus Tower (Washburn-McReavy Site) 483' / 40 Stories

Postby min-chi-cbus » April 20th, 2017, 8:10 am

TroyGBiv wrote:
April 19th, 2017, 6:47 pm
They must be planning to hit the ground running when the judge makes a ruling... probably either way...
What'll Alatus do instead if the judge doesn't rule in their favor?

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Re: 200 Central - Alatus Tower (Washburn-McReavy Site) 483' / 40 Stories

Postby seanrichardryan » April 20th, 2017, 11:21 am

Build a 6-10 story project.
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Re: 200 Central - Alatus Tower (Washburn-McReavy Site) 483' / 40 Stories

Postby ztr421 » April 20th, 2017, 12:21 pm

BTW, the wrecking permit was issued back on March 27... so they're probably pretty good to go.

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Re: 200 Central - Alatus Tower (Washburn-McReavy Site) 483' / 40 Stories

Postby bapster2006 » April 20th, 2017, 12:57 pm

Final ruling on height has not been made. I know, it's taking a while. The city has a great argument in that they state that they can use ANY valid reason for their land use decisions. In other words, it is not really up to a court.

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Re: 200 Central - Alatus Tower (Washburn-McReavy Site) 483' / 40 Stories

Postby mnmike » April 24th, 2017, 2:28 pm

So I take it this did not end up getting resolved on the 20th?

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Re: 200 Central - Alatus Tower (Washburn-McReavy Site) 483' / 40 Stories

Postby bapster2006 » April 25th, 2017, 3:54 pm

You are correct. In fact, no official decision has even been made about the stay of demolition, which is really a head scratcher at this point

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Re: 200 Central - Alatus Tower (Washburn-McReavy Site) 483' / 40 Stories

Postby bapster2006 » April 26th, 2017, 11:40 am

Hearing on May 18 to discuss the Stay and Bond.
Hey, I'm just the messenger.

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Re: 200 Central - Alatus Tower (Washburn-McReavy Site) 483' / 40 Stories

Postby seamonster » May 15th, 2017, 7:40 am

It appears a crane and wrecking ball have arrived...

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Re: 200 Central - Alatus Tower (Washburn-McReavy Site) 483' / 40 Stories

Postby grant1simons2 » May 15th, 2017, 9:25 am

The only crane I saw was the one doing roof work for the Winslow house. Where did you see a wrecking ball?


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