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Upper Harbor Terminal

Posted: November 7th, 2014, 6:59 pm
by Silophant
I definitely remember discussing this before, but neither I or twincitizen could find a dedicated thread, so here we go.

With the impending closure of the Upper St. Anthony Falls Lock, the City of Minneapolis is redeveloping the Upper Harbor Terminal - basically the whole west bank of the river from Lowry to a few blocks north of Dowling - as part of the greater Above the Falls plan. The plan calls for demolishing the terminal, extending the Grand Rounds park/trail system through the area next to the river, and developing a business park with riverfront amenities in the rest of the space.

City of Minneapolis presentation
Star Tribune article

Re: Upper Harbor Terminal

Posted: November 7th, 2014, 8:18 pm
by seanrichardryan
43 acres of riverfront. Wow.

Re: Upper Harbor Terminal

Posted: November 11th, 2014, 11:31 am
by mullen
that's significant. what a boost for the northside.

Re: Upper Harbor Terminal

Posted: May 7th, 2016, 10:24 pm
by Anondson
Throwback to 2011, just for conversation, here is a design finalist for redesigning the Upper Mississippi in Minneapolis.

http://worldlandscapearchitect.com/mrdc ... ient-river

Re: Upper Harbor Terminal

Posted: May 9th, 2016, 9:46 pm
by Silophant
Forgot the power lines, I see.

Re: Upper Harbor Terminal

Posted: May 11th, 2016, 5:08 pm
by Anondson
Open house on May 24th

https://twitter.com/Growingmpls/status/ ... 9139780608
Attend the Upper Harbor Terminal Open House, Tues, May 24. Learn more about the North Mpls riverfront development. http://twitter.com/Growingmpls/status/7 ... 08/photo/1

Re: Upper Mississippi -- No Locks For You

Posted: October 17th, 2016, 2:18 pm
by HiawathaGuy
First Avenue amphitheater pitched to anchor Minneapolis riverfront development
http://www.bizjournals.com/twincities/n ... nchor.html

Re: Upper Harbor Terminal

Posted: October 17th, 2016, 3:35 pm
by Anondson
Only one submission to be master developer of Upper Harbor Terminal.

http://www.minneapolismn.gov/www/groups ... 188308.pdf

Five submissions to be partner developers though.

Re: Upper Mississippi -- No Locks For You

Posted: October 17th, 2016, 4:49 pm
by Silophant
First Avenue amphitheater pitched to anchor Minneapolis riverfront development
http://www.bizjournals.com/twincities/n ... nchor.html
Cool idea, though I'm concerned about the amount of parking that would be required for a 20,000 seat amphitheater in such a transit-inaccessible location.

Re: Upper Harbor Terminal

Posted: October 17th, 2016, 6:28 pm
by grant1simons2
Time to restart the bus line up Washington Ave N!

Re: Upper Harbor Terminal

Posted: October 17th, 2016, 9:45 pm
by seanrichardryan
They can utilize the tiki shuttle from Pyscho Suzi's

Re: Upper Harbor Terminal

Posted: October 18th, 2016, 11:13 am
by Silophant
Strib article.

This one says 8-10,000 seats for the amphitheater. Which probably makes more sense. 20,000 seats is tremendous.

Re: Upper Harbor Terminal

Posted: October 18th, 2016, 11:16 am
by twincitizen
Reported attendance at this year's Rock the Garden (at Boom Island) was around 14,000. 10,000 compares well with Red Rocks, which is able to draw pretty big name acts. It falls far short of larger outdoor venues like WA's The Gorge or WI's Alpine Valley or Bay Area's Shoreline (all 20k+)

All things being equal, my preference would be for this concert facility to be at Boom Island (that unbeatable skyline view!), but I can see why Upper Harbor Terminal would win out, reason #1 being the question if the Park Board would even allow a permanent structure @ Boom Island, reason #2 being that Boom Island has residential neighbors and zero parking.

Re: Upper Harbor Terminal

Posted: October 18th, 2016, 11:31 am
by Didier
Nick Halter tweeted today to emphasize the word "accommodate" in "accomodate 20,000." So that makes sense.

Re: Upper Harbor Terminal

Posted: October 18th, 2016, 6:44 pm
by SkyScraperKid
Sure would be odd having an 8 seat amphitheater Silophant.

Re: Upper Harbor Terminal

Posted: October 21st, 2016, 8:28 am
by dingo
Would love to see the old railroad tracks be used to connect the North Loop to this proposal. Either Bike trail or possibly even streetcar!

Re: Upper Harbor Terminal

Posted: October 22nd, 2016, 7:24 am
by Silophant
Sure would be odd having an 8 seat amphitheater Silophant.
There's precedent!

Image

Re: Upper Harbor Terminal

Posted: October 25th, 2016, 2:40 pm
by Anondson
Drawings of potential amphitheater.

http://www.bizjournals.com/twincities/n ... ml?ana=twt

Re: Upper Harbor Terminal

Posted: October 25th, 2016, 5:37 pm
by grant1simons2
Are they going to force people to use the pedestrian bridge that would cross, what, a 2 lane road?

Re: Upper Harbor Terminal

Posted: October 25th, 2016, 8:17 pm
by Silophant
I'm guessing the ped bridge is more about crossing the tracks safely than the road. That being said, does this spur get a huge amount of use, or is it like the one along Hiawatha that sees like two trains per day?

This appears to be the presentation the article was working from.