Mortenson / USBank site - 333 Hennepin Ave E (290' - 26 stories)

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Re: Mortenson / USBank site - 333 Hennepin Ave E (~28 stories / 280 units)

Postby EOst » April 21st, 2017, 11:46 am

Wow, worse with every new image. Tons of curb cuts. Very little active at the base. Actually makes the not-too-roomy sidewalks on Hennepin and 4th narrower by building right up to the lot line.

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Re: Mortenson / USBank site - 333 Hennepin Ave E (~28 stories / 280 units)

Postby grant1simons2 » April 21st, 2017, 12:02 pm

Okay, this is terrible. It looks like it belongs next to the Container Store in Edina with that massive grey block parking ramp. I originally was okay with it, thinking it may be similar to what we see in the Netherlands. But materials, massing and lack of a cohesive design are really killing this.

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Re: Mortenson / USBank site - 333 Hennepin Ave E (~28 stories / 280 units)

Postby Chef » April 21st, 2017, 1:29 pm

This is turning into the type of project that makes regular people hate new developments.

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Re: Mortenson / USBank site - 333 Hennepin Ave E (~28 stories / 280 units)

Postby RailBaronYarr » April 21st, 2017, 2:03 pm

I guess I don't really care so much about the tower portion of it. There were a lot of people here who thought the previous iteration was silly and bad, too. (I actually kinda liked it)

The screened parking and curb cuts along 4th need to go. Can't force them to, but it looks to me like they could line the parking ramp facing 4th with a hallway and a few 1BR units without too much effort. The ground level public parking should only be accessible from the bank parking entrance (it's already designated as shared). Go ahead and screen the parking on the ground level with the ability to convert it into commercial/amenity space in the future.

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Re: Mortenson / USBank site - 333 Hennepin Ave E (~28 stories / 280 units)

Postby BigIdeasGuy » April 21st, 2017, 9:21 pm

I know this is an unpopular opinion here but I kinda like the design including the windowless elevator tower. Simple, straight forward, it knows what it is and wants to be and does that very well.

The frontage along 4th St on the other hand is unacceptable. Street level retail absolutely needs to continue on the other side of the elevator tower even if they don't include apartments above covering the parking ramp, in fact I like how they are using metal to screen the ramp in the rendering.

And I agree with EOst that the building needs to be set back at least a few feet along both Hennepin and 4th. Especially if they are going to try to have outdoor seating.

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Re: Mortenson / USBank site - 333 Hennepin Ave E (~28 stories / 280 units)

Postby Chef » April 22nd, 2017, 7:09 am

It is basically a modern update on the slab style commie block.

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Re: Mortenson / USBank site - 333 Hennepin Ave E (~28 stories / 280 units)

Postby Tiller » April 22nd, 2017, 1:49 pm

It looks like someone just used the extrude button on a 4-story box.

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Re: Mortenson / USBank site - 333 Hennepin Ave E (~28 stories / 280 units)

Postby mamundsen » April 23rd, 2017, 8:39 am

The site context on page 8 just shows that Nye's should have been taller. Now the short Montage doesn't fit the neighborhood.

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Re: Mortenson / USBank site - 333 Hennepin Ave E (~28 stories / 280 units)

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Re: Mortenson / USBank site - 333 Hennepin Ave E (~28 stories / 280 units)

Postby Silophant » April 24th, 2017, 2:59 pm

What exactly happened to convince Shamrock to change the design of the Legacy from a rectangular block to something a little more interesting, and will it work on Mortenson?

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Re: Mortenson / USBank site - 333 Hennepin Ave E (~28 stories / 280 units)

Postby aeisenberg » April 24th, 2017, 4:05 pm

Silophant wrote:
April 24th, 2017, 2:59 pm
What exactly happened to convince Shamrock to change the design of the Legacy from a rectangular block to something a little more interesting, and will it work on Mortenson?
The city. The city asked them to break up the massing in order to sign off on the design.

That said, it's still a really offensive hideous superblock of a building.
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Re: Mortenson / USBank site - 333 Hennepin Ave E (~28 stories / 280 units)

Postby grant1simons2 » May 9th, 2017, 4:17 pm

Look out for an updated design in the next couple of days. Probably May 11th on here

http://www.niebna.com/meetings/board/ag ... ng-agenda/

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Re: Mortenson / USBank site - 333 Hennepin Ave E (~28 stories / 280 units)

Postby Mooglemuffins » May 10th, 2017, 7:28 am

Good. Hopefully it's an actual update to the design to make this thing look way better and not just a 'we tweaked this corner so its new'

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Re: Mortenson / USBank site - 333 Hennepin Ave E (~28 stories / 280 units)

Postby spearson » May 12th, 2017, 7:37 am

Anyone go to the meeting?

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Re: Mortenson / USBank site - 333 Hennepin Ave E (~28 stories / 280 units)

Postby bapster2006 » May 18th, 2017, 7:49 am

This item was deferred to the June meeting by the way.

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Re: Mortenson / USBank site - 333 Hennepin Ave E (~28 stories / 280 units)

Postby nordeast homer » May 18th, 2017, 10:01 am

I'm not shocked. Let's hope that's enough time to spiff this thing up a little!

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Re: Mortenson / USBank site - 333 Hennepin Ave E (~28 stories / 280 units)

Postby bapster2006 » June 11th, 2017, 5:07 pm

Since my power has been out for 10 hours, I need reading material to keep me occupied. The latest iteration of 333 Hennepin:

http://www.niebna.com/docs/agendas/2017 ... k%20Slides

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Re: Mortenson / USBank site - 333 Hennepin Ave E (~28 stories / 280 units)

Postby TroyGBiv » June 11th, 2017, 6:03 pm

I think the refinements look better... better detail.

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Re: Mortenson / USBank site - 333 Hennepin Ave E (~28 stories / 280 units)

Postby Anondson » June 12th, 2017, 1:54 am

I feel better about it too. But I'm just a rando.

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Re: Mortenson / USBank site - 333 Hennepin Ave E (~28 stories / 280 units)

Postby blutdrache » June 15th, 2017, 9:25 pm

Resolution - 2017-06-08 Support for Mortenson Design.jpg
http://www.niebna.com/docs/agendas/2017 ... Design.pdf
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