Rafter - 333 Hennepin Ave E (290' - 26 stories)

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Re: Mortenson / USBank project - 333 Hennepin Ave E

Postby mplsjaromir » August 13th, 2015, 3:30 pm

Me likey

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Re: Mortenson / USBank project - 333 Hennepin Ave E

Postby lordmoke » August 13th, 2015, 3:31 pm

I just realized that the parking fronting Hennepin ( and most of it fronting 4th) is wrapped in apartments. This building is wonderful. Build it now.

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Re: Mortenson / USBank project - 333 Hennepin Ave E

Postby HiawathaGuy » August 13th, 2015, 3:43 pm

lordmoke wrote:I just realized that the parking fronting Hennepin ( and most of it fronting 4th) is wrapped in apartments. This building is wonderful. Build it now.
Agreed, this is really gorgeous. Very much like a lot of new buildings in Seattle.

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Re: Mortenson / USBank project - 333 Hennepin Ave E

Postby MNdible » August 13th, 2015, 3:52 pm

For a tall building, it's proportions seems surprisingly squat.

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Re: Mortenson / USBank project - 333 Hennepin Ave E

Postby seanrichardryan » August 13th, 2015, 4:15 pm

Squat and peculiar. Thumbs down.
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Re: Mortenson / USBank project - 333 Hennepin Ave E

Postby Nathan » August 13th, 2015, 4:23 pm

It has the recipe of a great building... but for some reason it's not there. It's really obtrusive and note so in the tower portion which is crazy because usually in complaining about the lower portions of large projects. This is amazing at street level and at covering parking and then they just petered out and it's a big rectangle.

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Re: Mortenson / USBank project - 333 Hennepin Ave E

Postby Silophant » August 13th, 2015, 5:51 pm

Mortenson Residential Development: Looking good compared to Opus since 2013.

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Re: Mortenson / USBank project - 333 Hennepin Ave E

Postby grant1simons2 » August 13th, 2015, 5:57 pm

I'd propose an extra 10' setback on the North elevation of the tower and move the 6' setback to 10' on the South elevation as well to make it appear slimmer when you're heading down Hennepin.

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Re: Mortenson / USBank project - 333 Hennepin Ave E

Postby John » August 13th, 2015, 6:13 pm

The biggest problem is the squat, boxy proportions of the tower which are very similar to Nic on Fifth. In other words: it needs to be narrower and taller. The base looks very good.

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Re: Mortenson / USBank project - 333 Hennepin Ave E

Postby EOst » August 13th, 2015, 6:55 pm

Gotta say, the rendering on page 21 is pushing the limits of "artistic license" a bit with the glassy reflective streets.

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Re: Mortenson / USBank project - 333 Hennepin Ave E

Postby mamundsen » August 13th, 2015, 8:06 pm

I like it. I'd love to see one rendering of all the towers proposed in NE. Anyone have that modeled?

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Re: Mortenson / USBank project - 333 Hennepin Ave E

Postby Seth » August 13th, 2015, 9:03 pm

Props to the street level and podium design! The tower...well the design, like others have said, has huge potential, but isn't there yet. Sure narrower and taller would help, but I really think there's too many big horizontal elements. The large box cutouts and the top hat it's wearing. It's like wearing a horizontal stripe shirt when you're already short in stature.

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Re: Mortenson / USBank project - 333 Hennepin Ave E

Postby m b p » August 13th, 2015, 10:42 pm

mamundsen wrote:I like it. I'd love to see one rendering of all the towers proposed in NE. Anyone have that modeled?
My model for the alatus tower, along with not being colored and detailed, is 5 floors and around 50' too tall. My model for 333 Hennepin is not yet detailed. I haven't yet created a model for the superior plating site. This is the best I can do right now...

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Re: Mortenson / USBank project - 333 Hennepin Ave E

Postby mamundsen » August 14th, 2015, 5:11 am

Thanks. I appreciate it. I would love to see NE thrive and have all of these and the streetcar happen in the next 5 years.

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Re: Mortenson / USBank project - 333 Hennepin Ave E

Postby seamonster » August 14th, 2015, 9:23 am

Initial impression: that building has three shiny Band-Aids.

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Re: Mortenson / USBank project - 333 Hennepin Ave E

Postby scottiem » August 14th, 2015, 9:31 am

I like it. It breaks the mold a little bit by not using the 'eyebrow' design popular for many of the new structures going up and introduces unused design elements, like the glassy rectangular breakouts in the tower. Not only do they breakup the offset-checkerboard patterning of the windows, but adds good visual interest. The street level is great, especially with apartments blocking the view of the garage.

Not sure I'm perceiving the squat nature of the tower negatively though. I guess you could introduce vertical elements into the cladding, but many towers in Minneapolis already have that. The proportions feel visually similar to the US Bank Tower, and even IDS looks squat from certain angles, like Lake Calhoun.

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Re: Mortenson / USBank project - 333 Hennepin Ave E

Postby mnmike » August 14th, 2015, 12:38 pm

I am kind of surprised by all the praise...or maybe not, as it is "tall"...but I think it is a bit boxy and unattractive! 4Marq is turning out nice though, so maybe this would too.

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Re: Mortenson / USBank project - 333 Hennepin Ave E

Postby Nathan » August 14th, 2015, 12:53 pm

Design peculiarities aside...
I really like the site lay out with the new bank, it's pretty urban for what it is.
I really like that it has a lot of 2 bedroom, and almost 20 3 bedroom units, mixed with studios.
the parking podium also isn't nearly as large as I supposed.

*also the other perspectives of the building make it look a lot nicer. The street level is amazing.
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Re: Mortenson / USBank project - 333 Hennepin Ave E

Postby RailBaronYarr » August 14th, 2015, 12:57 pm

If a slightly boxy and unattractive (which I think it actually looks pretty interesting) design is what it takes to get a tower+base without exposed podium parking, apartments screening structured parking for 2-3 stories, and only one curb cut along the streets, all on barely over 1/4 of a square NE block, then I'll take it!

If anything, my only complaint is that US Bank will build a new structure on the remaining surface parking along 1st/4th. Given the parking spaces dedicated to them in the new development, I'd hope the city can push for a more urban-friendly design than the rough sketch shown on pg 8 (pdf pg 10). I know the bank will still cling to wanting a drive-thru, but that can be accommodated while having good frontage and hopefully another story or two above.

EDIT: ha, Nathan and I disagree on the new bank design :)

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Re: Mortenson / USBank project - 333 Hennepin Ave E

Postby trigonalmayhem » August 14th, 2015, 1:12 pm

I like it. I'll probably live there if I'm still in town when (if?) it's completed.


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