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2020 Presidential Election

Postby Didier » May 20th, 2020, 5:56 pm

Looks like we don’t have a thread on this yet. So let’s start with a hypothetical:

If Amy were to get the VP nomination, who would replace her in the senate?

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Re: 2020 Presidential Election

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Re: 2020 Presidential Election

Postby VacantLuxuries » May 21st, 2020, 11:13 am

Not to be a pessimist, but if Amy gets picked, I don't think we have to worry about her replacement.

She didn't make enough of an impact on the country, is not ideologically different enough from Biden to make for a good ticket balance, and would be about as useless to Biden as Tim Kaine was to Clinton.

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Re: 2020 Presidential Election

Postby Didier » May 21st, 2020, 2:11 pm

I actually think Amy would be a pretty solid pick among a field where nobody is really perfect.

Amy's biggest attribute is that she's competent to the point of being kind of lame, which after four years of Donald Trump might actually be an ideal quality right now. It also doesn't hurt that she's demonstrated this in a bunch of national debates. Elizabeth Warren is extremely competent too, and more progressive and better known, but there's not much to suggest she'd be more electable and she's arguably more valuable in the senate. I could take or leave Kamala.

I recognize the appeal of a minority woman too, and Stacey Abrams and Val Demings both have their appeals, though each also require a greater leap of faith based on their current positions and experience. The Michigan and New Mexico governors both have potential too. I don't know a lot about either, though.

So all things considered, yeah, Amy doesn't make me giddy or anything, but she's probably the safest pick in an election that most people just want to win. The only real concern would be if a wing of the party was really upset that she's white, which no doubt some people would be, but the people who seem most fixated on that are the white progressives on Twitter. And it's not like we'd be passing up a no-brainer black woman. So I don't know.

As to the Tim Kaine comparison, I just don't think much about the 2016 election can be considered normal precedent. What it came down to was Hillary Clinton being the unique candidate capable of losing that unlosable election and Kaine, like most VP candidates, likely had little influence either way.

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Re: 2020 Presidential Election

Postby fehler » May 22nd, 2020, 7:31 am

Yes, no one believes that Tim Kaine was the reason Hillary Clinton lost her election.

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Re: 2020 Presidential Election

Postby Blaisdell Greenway » May 22nd, 2020, 8:26 am

VP stakes are MUCH higher this time around. Biden is 78 and has signaled he wouldn't run again if elected. Klobuchar is a terrible choice for VP for many reasons, both ideologically and the whole staff abuse thing/wrongful conviction of Myon Burrell. If A Klo is passed over for VP then she would probably sail through Senate confirmation as Attorney General.

Governor Walz makes the appointment and I could see him elevating Angie Craig to the seat. My fantasyland picks would be Erin Murphy or Angela Conley.

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Re: 2020 Presidential Election

Postby fehler » May 22nd, 2020, 2:40 pm

Peggy Flanagan would be a solid pick. Naming Craig would put the 2nd back on the table in a low-turnout special election.


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