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Re: Latest Census Estimates and Met Council Projections

Postby NickP » May 22nd, 2019, 7:48 am

https://www.twincities.com/2019/05/20/s ... in-cities/

This Pioneer Press Article goes into the percentage growth a bit.

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Re: Latest Census Estimates and Met Council Projections

Postby Multimodal » May 22nd, 2019, 7:59 am

Anondson wrote:
May 22nd, 2019, 7:35 am
I want to see the list ranked by percentage.
Fort Snelling had the most dramatic growth. 🤔

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Re: Latest Census Estimates and Met Council Projections

Postby twincitizen » May 22nd, 2019, 9:05 am

NickP wrote:
May 21st, 2019, 11:26 pm
the five largest metro cities are Minneapolis (429,382), St. Paul (313,010), Bloomington (89,654), Brooklyn Park (81,679), and Woodbury (70,840)
You missed Plymouth (78,351). Woodbury has more than enough open land to eclipse Plymouth within a decade, but Plymouth also has a ton of industrial property along the MN-55 corridor in the SE quadrant of the city that could see large apartment complexes added, assuming demand and political support.
kellonathan wrote:
May 22nd, 2019, 12:20 am
Bloomington on track to join the league of "first class cities" soon!
Also hitting an all-time population high (89,654), after having dropped since the previous recorded high of 86,355 in 1990. It dropped by a couple thousand in the next two Census counts, bottoming out at ~83k in 2010. 90k is assured for the 2020 Census.

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Re: Latest Census Estimates and Met Council Projections

Postby NickP » May 22nd, 2019, 1:47 pm

twincitizen wrote:
May 22nd, 2019, 9:05 am
NickP wrote:
May 21st, 2019, 11:26 pm
the five largest metro cities are Minneapolis (429,382), St. Paul (313,010), Bloomington (89,654), Brooklyn Park (81,679), and Woodbury (70,840)
You missed Plymouth (78,351). Woodbury has more than enough open land to eclipse Plymouth within a decade, but Plymouth also has a ton of industrial property along the MN-55 corridor in the SE quadrant of the city that could see large apartment complexes added, assuming demand and political support.
My apologies. Thank you for the correction :)

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Re: Latest Census Estimates and Met Council Projections

Postby twincitizen » March 26th, 2020, 9:47 am

2019 estimates are out for counties & metro areas: https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-r ... metro.html

https://twitter.com/yfreemark/status/12 ... 8385375236?

MN spreadsheet link: https://www2.census.gov/programs-survey ... es-27.xlsx

The state as a whole gained about 33,400 on the year; 8,000 of which was in Hennepin and 1,500 in Ramsey. The 5 suburban counties each gained between 1,500-4,000 (led by Dakota County). The reason for Ramsey County's smaller growth is pretty simple - it's small geographically and fully developed aside from the TCAAP site. There's no place for further suburban sprawl to go, unlike the 5 suburban counties which are both infilling multifamily and adding suburban subdivisions at the exurban fringe. Ramsey County's growth is almost entirely reliant on infill development in St. Paul and whichever of its suburbs have strong enough markets to drive new apartment construction (Shoreview, White Bear Lake, etc.)

City-level estimates typically come out in May. I don't know if the Census releases those during a Census year, but I'd assume the Met Council will still release their 2019 estimates in the coming months.

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Re: Latest Census Estimates and Met Council Projections

Postby Anondson » March 26th, 2020, 10:37 am

How are these estimates looking for keeping a congressional seat in Minnesota?

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Re: Latest Census Estimates and Met Council Projections

Postby twincitizen » March 26th, 2020, 10:59 am

Seems it would take a big undercount in TX and/or FL to keep Minnesota's 8 seats. Luckily for us, that is on the table, with those GOP-led states not putting state funds into getting an accurate count like most blue states have. And those states have lower self-response rates than MN. Especially with coronavirus affecting the Census bureau's ability to do in-person follow-ups for folks that don't complete their forms, it does seem TX and FL (and Alabama, which is fighting to keep its 7th seat and comes in just ahead of MN on the apportionment projections) are all pretty ripe for undercounts. We might just beat the odds and keep the 8th. As of last year, MN's 8th was showing up as #437 on the apportionment projections. This report has lists of seats 431-435 (and theoretical seats 436-440) based on the 2019 estimate, and with estimated 2019-2020 growth added in: https://www.electiondataservices.com/wp ... MSF0951a18 - Both models have MN-8 coming in behind AL-7 and FL-29.

Also, if you're thinking about COVID-19 impacts, keep in mind that the pandemic itself wouldn't have much direct affect on actual population, since the census is technically counted as of April 1 (~25% and counting have already filled theirs out online). Where it will have the biggest impact is on the ability to get people counted in the field, not whether those people exist. No matter what happens, there is just a massive likelihood of undercounts happening all over the country this census, especially on the hardest-to-count populations.

The Census has a map of online self-response rates here: https://2020census.gov/en/response-rates.html
I think this gets updated daily. Considering it's not April 1 yet and paper forms haven't been sent out (to households that haven't responded online), I think the early numbers are fairly encouraging. Most people being home with nothing to do is hopefully boosting those online response rates. Per usual, the upper midwest is leading the country in self-response, but there's a long way to go to reach the self-response rates of 2010 (range of WV's 59% to MN's 74% in 2010).

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Re: Latest Census Estimates and Met Council Projections

Postby alexschief » March 26th, 2020, 11:42 am

Anondson wrote:
March 26th, 2020, 10:37 am
How are these estimates looking for keeping a congressional seat in Minnesota?
Just comparatively, Minnesota's most recent number is below its average in the years since 2010, and that rate was projected to make Minnesota's congressional count almost a complete toss-up. So these numbers, even low by a couple thousand, are discouraging.

As Twincitizen writes above, the state is probably going to need numbers from the faster growing sunbelt states to be under what is expected. It's anybody's guess whether the coronavirus will level the playing field or sharpen the contrast between states that have been making a full-court press to count everyone and states that have taken a more lax approach.


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