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Re: Twin Cities' National and Global Image

Postby talindsay » November 21st, 2014, 3:26 pm

That's a better map than many, for sure. I do think it's really hard to imagine any regional division that puts Minnesota in a different region from the Dakotas though - the Dakotas really are, culturally, economically, historically, and geographically, merely an extension of Minnesota. The challenge of course is that putting the Dakotas with MN means WY and MT are either stranded on their own, or become part of the Northwest.

To Avian's point, the real issue there is that there *ARE* two Dakotas - but the state lines go the wrong way. There's east Dakota, east of the River, which is unquestionably Minnesota; and there's west Dakota, west of the River, which has a history tied to Minnesota but is otherwise unquestionably tied to the West, transitioning seamlessly into Wyoming and Montana.

I understand that those four states have a smaller combined population than MN so it doesn't hardly matter, but lumping them together with Nebraska and ignoring the MN-Dakota connection is pretty odd.

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Re: Twin Cities' National and Global Image

Postby EOst » November 21st, 2014, 3:41 pm

I've always thought Montana and Wyoming have a lot more in common with Idaho--and, ultimately, with Utah and Colorado--than they do with the Dakotas. For that matter, they have a lot more in common than Idaho (outside of Coeur d'Alene and maybe Moscow) than Idaho does with Washington/Oregon, though that's complicated by the strong east/west divide in those states.

tl;dr: Divisions based purely on state boundaries don't make lot of sense no matter what you do.

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Re: Twin Cities' National and Global Image

Postby Avian » November 21st, 2014, 3:55 pm

talindsay wrote:...
To Avian's point, the real issue there is that there *ARE* two Dakotas - but the state lines go the wrong way. There's east Dakota, east of the River, which is unquestionably Minnesota; and there's west Dakota, west of the River, which has a history tied to Minnesota but is otherwise unquestionably tied to the West, transitioning seamlessly into Wyoming and Montana....
I agree completely. I've mentioned before that if you want to categorize a large region as "Midwest" I think it's better defined as being east of the Missouri River and North of the Ohio River. And even those borders are a bit fuzzy.

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Re: Twin Cities' National and Global Image

Postby Nick » November 21st, 2014, 4:02 pm

In any case, everyone in America shops at the same six stores and eats at the same eight restaurants, so hey.

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Re: Twin Cities' National and Global Image

Postby John21 » November 21st, 2014, 4:18 pm

I thought the North belonged to the Starks? :?

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Re: Twin Cities' National and Global Image

Postby mplsjaromir » November 23rd, 2014, 9:04 am

Nick wrote:In any case, everyone in America shops at the same six stores and eats at the same eight restaurants, so hey.
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Re: Twin Cities' National and Global Image

Postby Nick » November 23rd, 2014, 10:55 am

I've had two retweets from @chilis this month and I feel like a #star.

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Re: Twin Cities' National and Global Image

Postby Anondson » November 23rd, 2014, 12:25 pm

Probably should have posted to the urbanist confessions thread... #JustBeingHelpful :P

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Re: Twin Cities' National and Global Image

Postby nBode » November 23rd, 2014, 6:46 pm

Lileks wrote about "the North" but it was pretty lame, imo.

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Re: Twin Cities' National and Global Image

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Re: Twin Cities' National and Global Image

Postby Silophant » November 24th, 2014, 9:06 am

I've never been there, but I have trouble believing that Toronto has more in common with Des Moines than Rochester and Buffalo.

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Re: Twin Cities' National and Global Image

Postby mulad » December 5th, 2014, 8:04 pm

Minnesota ranks no. 2 in innovation, by one measure: http://www.startribune.com/business/284936241.html

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Re: Twin Cities' National and Global Image

Postby Anondson » December 7th, 2014, 9:43 pm

I only just discovered BBC America's acclaimed new TV show Orphan Black. Watched all of season 1 through Amazon Prime and haven't gotten to season 2 yet, no wonder people were raving about it. Great stuff.

Wanted to mention it has a major secondary character who is a PhD candidate at the University of Minnesota. A few scenes are cut around campus signage.

What other TV shows currently or recently involved the Twin Cities?

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Re: Twin Cities' National and Global Image

Postby FISHMANPET » December 7th, 2014, 9:44 pm

Well, we've got Renovate to Rent and Rehab Addict, covering opposite ends of the housing propaganda spectrum here in the city.

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Re: Twin Cities' National and Global Image

Postby NickP » December 8th, 2014, 10:43 am

Not a TV show, but the film "Dear White People" was filmed at the U of M.

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Re: Twin Cities' National and Global Image

Postby lordmoke » December 8th, 2014, 10:49 am

There are actually a ton of reality TV shows (think Food Network, DIY HGTV, etc.) whose production crews are based out of MSP. These shows travel a lot though, so it's not usually very evident.

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Re: Twin Cities' National and Global Image

Postby bapster2006 » December 8th, 2014, 11:12 am

America Unearthed can be fun and hokey at the same time. I met Scott Wolter in the 90's at an agate show in Moose Lake.

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Re: Twin Cities' National and Global Image

Postby min-chi-cbus » December 8th, 2014, 11:34 am

Rehab Addict is based in Minneapolis (entirely?). It was cool to see actually, since they "Hollywoodize" the city by showing fast montages of pictures throughout town during transitions or coming out of commercials. It was nice to see my city again.....it made me super homesick!

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Re: Twin Cities' National and Global Image

Postby FISHMANPET » December 8th, 2014, 11:35 am

There was a show Inspector America in 2011 where an inspector went to various cities around the country to inspect them. He was from St Paul, and because of the 35W bridge collapse he started here in the Twin Cities. There's a fun bit where he takes a smell meter to the downtown incinerator. It was only 6 episodes or so and never got a second season.


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