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Re: Grocery Stores

Postby billhelm » August 24th, 2015, 3:25 pm

I'm not sure Total Wine could open at Hi-Lake without some kind of exception (or buyout, though not even sure that would pass muster)- there is a 2000 ft buffer zone for new off sale establishments and they'd fall into two different store's (Minnehaha Lake and Hi Lake) buffer zones at the old Rainbow location.

This is an interesting map showing the very limited potential locations for a new off-sale liquor establishment. Has to be in a C2 or up with 5 acres of continuous zoning and outside of that 2000 ft buffer. There's probably also school and church restrictions that they'd need to get an exception on as well. There's clearly several stores grandfathered into this.

http://cityoflakes.maps.arcgis.com/apps ... 49c03ae0b8

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Re: Grocery Stores

Postby twincitizen » August 24th, 2015, 3:32 pm

Not Roundy's, but a coalition of the existing players (Supervalu, Jerry's, Lunds&Byerlys) had that goal.

To continue my previous question/thought experiment, I don't really think any of the 5 extant Rainbow stores are ideal Hyvee locations. (ignoring for a moment the fact that they are currently owned by Hyvee's competitors)

West St. Paul - If you're Hyvee and looking in the SE metro, the already vacant Rainbows in Inver Grove or Cottage Grove would look more attractive from a HH income standpoint, though WSP wins on population density.

St. Paul Midway seems destined for a non-grocery redevelopment of retail/office/residential. Between Cub, SuperTarget and the coming Whole Foods at Snelby, this area is pretty well saturated.

Maplewood is Supervalu-owned and right across the street from a Cub (and a mile+ from another Cub now that the old 694/WB Kmart is being renovated as a Cub). Chances are Supervalu will shut down this location or the Cub across the street and sell to a non-grocery redevelopment.

Richfield I really don't know. This location is independent (Jerry's?) and leased, not owned. There's a Cub 6 blocks up Nicollet on the other side of MN-62, but I could see both stores continuing to exist. This Rainbow would be a good candidate for redevelopment whenever the owners of The Hub decide it's time to blow it up and start over. That does not appear to be on the horizon this decade. Could easily become a Jerry's branded store if Rainbow brand folds.

Plymouth - no idea. Right down the block from Byerlys and Cub, though on the other side of 55. This one is a really good example of why Lunds & Supervalu (and franchisees) teamed up to block Hyvee. This would be the exact type of property Hyvee would want to get their hands on and redevelop the entire lil shopping center there.

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Re: Grocery Stores

Postby LakeCharles » August 24th, 2015, 3:34 pm

billhelm wrote:This is an interesting map showing the very limited potential locations for a new off-sale liquor establishment. Has to be in a C2 or up with 5 acres of continuous zoning and outside of that 2000 ft buffer. There's probably also school and church restrictions that they'd need to get an exception on as well. There's clearly several stores grandfathered into this.

http://cityoflakes.maps.arcgis.com/apps ... 49c03ae0b8
Franklin and Eliot seems like a location that'd be great. In a dense area, no stores within a mile. And even the closest store is across Hiawatha and 94, so there wouldn't be much overlap.

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Re: Grocery Stores

Postby MNdible » August 24th, 2015, 3:42 pm

billhelm wrote:I'm not sure Total Wine could open at Hi-Lake without some kind of exception (or buyout, though not even sure that would pass muster)- there is a 2000 ft buffer zone for new off sale establishments and they'd fall into two different store's (Minnehaha Lake and Hi Lake) buffer zones at the old Rainbow location.
Yeah, in my original thought experiment, I'd assumed that Minnehaha Lake would need to get bought out, but you may be right -- even with that purchase, it still might not be compliant.

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Re: Grocery Stores

Postby Mikey » August 26th, 2015, 10:57 am

For the record, the WSP Rainbow on Robert closed earlier this summer. I can't see a new grocery store going in there either - Jerry's also owns the Cub 1 mile away, and it is flanked on Robert by a Super Target and a Walmart
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Re: Grocery Stores

Postby MNdible » August 26th, 2015, 11:05 am

This month-old (but maybe just unlocked?) interview with the Hy-Vee CEO gives some insight into what they're thinking as they expand.

Of particular note:
Q: Target and other retailers are experimenting with small-format stores. Is that something Hy-Vee has considered?
A: We are [experimenting with those models], too, just not here. We’ve committed to a 36,000-square-foot store that’s at the base of an apartment complex in downtown [Des Moines]. We’ve done extensive study of this in Manhattan, Chicago and other markets, and have developed an ultra-fresh, meal-driven store. When the right opportunity comes up [in the Twin Cities] we’ll absolutely jump on it. We’ve looked for those settings here. We spent some time looking for places around the new football stadium. We haven’t found anything, but I see a variety of stores up here. They won’t all be this prototype [a 90,000-square-foot store with gas station, coffee shop, pharmacy, etc.].

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Re: Grocery Stores

Postby Silophant » August 26th, 2015, 1:25 pm

Huh. That would be a decent fit for the Prospect Park Station development.

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Re: Grocery Stores

Postby Mikey » August 26th, 2015, 2:53 pm

I've been waiting for HyVee to enter this market since I moved to the U from Rochester in '98. Of course, I worked for them after they bought out Barlow's

I'd like to see them redevelop the former Rainbow / Home Depot strip in Cottage Grove. As far as Inver Grove, they're more likely to aim for the border lands with Eagan than the former Rainbow at Concord and US 52
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Re: Grocery Stores

Postby gpete » October 22nd, 2015, 10:48 am

Saw an interesting tweet from Rachel Stassen-Berger yesterday. https://twitter.com/RachelSB/status/656889036112465921

CostCo just registered three lobbyists to lobby metro-area governments and administrative actions. They did not hire lobbyists to lobby the state legislature.

Anyone with inside info or want to speculate about what they are trying to accomplish? Planning more stores in the metro-area? Zoning changes? Liquor regulations? We don't know which counties/cities they plan to lobby.

Here's a link to the state registration of lobbyists: http://cfboard.state.mn.us/lobby/lbdetail/lb2439.html

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Re: Grocery Stores

Postby mattaudio » November 9th, 2015, 6:07 pm

Anyone been to a "Fresh & Natural Foods"??
New one in Mendota Heights.
http://www.freshandnaturalfoods.com/contact-us/

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Re: Grocery Stores

Postby Nathan » November 13th, 2015, 7:43 pm

The Wedge has plans up in its store fora minor remodel including refacing their doors to just the parking lot, it's kind of a confused style with the rest of the building

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Re: Grocery Stores

Postby Wedgeguy » November 13th, 2015, 9:36 pm

Nathan wrote:The Wedge has plans up in its store fora minor remodel including refacing their doors to just the parking lot, it's kind of a confused style with the rest of the building
The only plus I see to that is that it will make it safe for people that are entering away from the busy sidewalk, parking lot entrance where drivers trying to beat on coming traffic might hit someone walking out as they try getting into the parking lot without getting T-boned.

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Re: Grocery Stores

Postby mulad » February 10th, 2016, 8:54 pm

The Lunds & Byerlys at 1959 Suburban Ave on the East Side of St. Paul is closing on March 6th. The building is 48,000 square feet and has been there since 1971.

http://www.twincities.com/2016/02/10/ea ... -in-march/

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Re: Grocery Stores

Postby Anondson » May 3rd, 2016, 7:32 am

Minnesotans love their organic grocery stores.

http://www.startribune.com/twin-cities- ... 377805221/

More and more opening or coming soon.

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Re: Grocery Stores

Postby maxbaby » May 3rd, 2016, 6:08 pm

Kroger could buy Cub Foods, analyst says.
http://www.bizjournals.com/twincities/n ... -says.html

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Re: Grocery Stores

Postby seanrichardryan » May 3rd, 2016, 7:14 pm

Great, as long as I never have to see this font again.

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Grocery Stores

Postby Anondson » May 25th, 2016, 3:44 pm

Hy-Vee said to be coming with convenience store concepts in addition to the grocery stores.

http://www.bizjournals.com/twincities/n ... tores.html

The better to feed the loyalty points of their customers.

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Re: Grocery Stores

Postby go4guy » May 25th, 2016, 7:38 pm

After moving to Rochester, I have to say that Hy-Vee is a great store to have nearby. Usually nice, clean, and good quality. I have been very impressed. And the rewards program with the fuel savers is great. Earlier this year I filled up my 26 gallon truck for about $8. Cant beat that!

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Re: Grocery Stores

Postby twincitizen » May 26th, 2016, 7:02 am

The Seward Friendship store is terrible*. Other coops are only slightly better, in my experience. The (lack of) selection of food just does not appeal to me. I think once and for all I have discovered that I am just not a coop guy.
Lunds & Kowalskis carry produce that is good enough, and their deli selections are far more expansive (pasta salads, cole slaws, sliced deli meats, selection of many flavors of brats and marinated chicken breasts, etc.)

I've been shopping at Uptown Cub more lately to save some $, but I still have to make a separate weekly trip to Lunds/K-wals/Fresh Thyme to get my Boar's Head sliced turkey for lunches.

Also, they didn't carry Nutella, which ruined my gf's mood, which in turn ruined our evening. Ugh.

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Re: Grocery Stores

Postby FISHMANPET » May 26th, 2016, 7:43 am

Welcome to the "coops are bougie trash" bandwagon. Maybe it's just the two of us here so far.

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