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Re: Ford Twin Cities Assembly Plant Redevelopment

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Re: Ford Twin Cities Assembly Plant Redevelopment

Postby Anondson » April 1st, 2017, 1:04 pm

Every bit of stormwater can route away from untreated pipes-into-the-river over to this is an improvement over what we have today. This excites me.

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Re: Ford Twin Cities Assembly Plant Redevelopment

Postby Tiller » April 2nd, 2017, 10:01 am

There's still hope for preserving neighborhood character!

https://streets.mn/2017/04/01/neighbors ... ford-site/

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Re: Ford Twin Cities Assembly Plant Redevelopment

Postby hiawather » May 15th, 2017, 9:40 am

Hello all-

I'm surprised to see this thread so quiet as this is a once-in-a-generation development project. In any case, I wanted to let everyone know that there is a petition to support the dense, environmentally and transit-friendly development plan currently under consideration.

https://actionnetwork.org/petitions/pet ... -community

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Re: Ford Twin Cities Assembly Plant Redevelopment

Postby martykoessel » May 15th, 2017, 10:06 am

I'm late to this thread, but at the risk of repeating what might have appeared earlier, I'll put in a Hurrah! for a planned community on the site of a former airport in Austin, TX. It's beautiful, walkable, and lively:

http://www.muelleraustin.com/about/
http://www.npr.org/2015/02/12/385474414 ... ban-utopia

Something like it could be a great fit for the Ford site.

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Re: Ford Twin Cities Assembly Plant Redevelopment

Postby EOst » May 15th, 2017, 1:36 pm

Do sign this if you can, especially if you live in Saint Paul. It's good people behind it.

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Re: Ford Twin Cities Assembly Plant Redevelopment

Postby Mooglemuffins » July 6th, 2017, 6:21 pm

https://www.minnpost.com/politics-polic ... ry-st-paul

Ugggggggh fucking NIMBYS....What do they want if not this lovely, sustainable, ecologically sound neighborhood? Keep it a huge empty dirt pit? Fuck.

"The community, the neighbors, the taxpayers. We should be benefiting from this."

Says it all. Fuck all the other benefits this would bring to the city they just think the whole thing should first and foremost benefit people who happen to live there because "this is the neighborhood that elects mayors".

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Re: Ford Twin Cities Assembly Plant Redevelopment

Postby SurlyLHT » July 7th, 2017, 6:56 am

Perhaps they'll appreciate the World's Fair/Expo next door instead? It seems that often in America we believe in the freedom to make our own choices, until a neighbor makes a choice we don't like then we have all the rights and feel obliged to infringe on someone else's freedom.

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Re: Ford Twin Cities Assembly Plant Redevelopment

Postby amiller92 » July 7th, 2017, 9:16 am

https://www.minnpost.com/politics-polic ... ry-st-paul

Ugggggggh fucking NIMBYS....What do they want if not this lovely, sustainable, ecologically sound neighborhood? Keep it a huge empty dirt pit? Fuck.

"The community, the neighbors, the taxpayers. We should be benefiting from this."

Says it all. Fuck all the other benefits this would bring to the city they just think the whole thing should first and foremost benefit people who happen to live there because "this is the neighborhood that elects mayors".
I also kind of want to point out that it's not really "their" neighborhoods. It's a big open space across a multi-lane boulevard from their neighborhood. A new neighborhood in the planning, really.

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Re: Ford Twin Cities Assembly Plant Redevelopment

Postby VacantLuxuries » July 7th, 2017, 9:19 am

"this is the neighborhood that elects mayors"
Well I didn't have a strong feeling one way or another about the St. Paul mayoral race, but I certainly want Ward 1 to come out in droves to turn the tide to Thao now. What a repulsive sentiment.

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Re: Ford Twin Cities Assembly Plant Redevelopment

Postby Silophant » July 7th, 2017, 9:36 am

https://www.minnpost.com/politics-polic ... ry-st-paul

Ugggggggh fucking NIMBYS....What do they want if not this lovely, sustainable, ecologically sound neighborhood? Keep it a huge empty dirt pit? Fuck.

"The community, the neighbors, the taxpayers. We should be benefiting from this."

Says it all. Fuck all the other benefits this would bring to the city they just think the whole thing should first and foremost benefit people who happen to live there because "this is the neighborhood that elects mayors".
Not only that, but the community and the taxpayers certainly will be benefiting from this. Property taxes from 135 acres of mid-rise buildings will be significantly higher than whatever Ford is currently paying for a wasteland.
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Re: Ford Twin Cities Assembly Plant Redevelopment

Postby Mooglemuffins » July 7th, 2017, 11:47 am

"this is the neighborhood that elects mayors"
Well I didn't have a strong feeling one way or another about the St. Paul mayoral race, but I certainly want Ward 1 to come out in droves to turn the tide to Thao now. What a repulsive sentiment.
Right? I wish I lived in St. Paul just so I could go out to vote and spite these neighborhood busybodies. I mean really :roll: "We elect the mayor". Yeah you and everyone else in the city so shut up.

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Re: Ford Twin Cities Assembly Plant Redevelopment

Postby jebr » July 10th, 2017, 11:47 am

"this is the neighborhood that elects mayors"
Well I didn't have a strong feeling one way or another about the St. Paul mayoral race, but I certainly want Ward 1 to come out in droves to turn the tide to Thao now. What a repulsive sentiment.
I'm half-tempted to vote for Thao (or, really, any candidate who strongly supports the current Ford plan, which I'm not 100% sure on Thao's stance on that) just out of spite. That's just crazy talk, and someone really needs to knock the NIMBYs off their high horse.

It doesn't help that the meeting was at mid-morning, which pretty much rules out anyone that has an office-hours job to attend the meeting.

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Re: Ford Twin Cities Assembly Plant Redevelopment

Postby Rube Dali » September 18th, 2017, 8:38 pm

One group is now talking of suing the city over this. I believe this group has been discussed on here, but WTF?

http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2017/09/1 ... ent-group/
Buildings, what buildings?

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Re: Ford Twin Cities Assembly Plant Redevelopment

Postby Mooglemuffins » September 20th, 2017, 6:04 am

One group is now talking of suing the city over this. I believe this group has been discussed on here, but WTF?

http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2017/09/1 ... ent-group/
Wow...fuck those guys :x

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Re: Ford Twin Cities Assembly Plant Redevelopment

Postby David Greene » September 20th, 2017, 9:03 pm

Dai Thao disappointingly comes out against the plan.

http://m.startribune.com/forty-public-m ... tion=local

I guess I understand there's a certain political calculus here but I'm really shaking my head at this. Really disappointed.

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Re: Ford Twin Cities Assembly Plant Redevelopment

Postby Tiller » September 20th, 2017, 9:52 pm

It's tough because he's facing Melvin Carter and Pat Harris, who didn't stick around on the city council.

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Re: Ford Twin Cities Assembly Plant Redevelopment

Postby HiawathaGuy » September 28th, 2017, 11:04 am

St. Paul approves broad plan for former Ford site
https://www.bizjournals.com/twincities/ ... -site.html

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Re: Ford Twin Cities Assembly Plant Redevelopment

Postby minneboom » October 2nd, 2017, 10:41 pm

There are new documents up for the Reimagine the Railway study along the CP rail spur.

https://www.stpaul.gov/departments/plan ... udying-new

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Re: Ford Twin Cities Assembly Plant Redevelopment

Postby Palmetto » November 2nd, 2017, 11:35 am

On the MPR St. Paul Mayor debate, Dai Thao just mentioned carbucks when asked why he voted no on the Ford Site. You just can't make it up.... :roll:


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