RBC Gateway & Four Seasons - 37 stories - 519'
Re: United Properties / Four Seasons "Gateway" Project (Nicollet Hotel Block)
Okay, let me be more specific. The resident parking garages at Loring Green are never full, and it's simple and easy to borrow a space short term or rent one cheap as long as you live there (no outside rentals allowed). Heck, a guy used to store parts of his car collection in an ever changing group of rented spots.
I've been in the resident parking portions of the Nic's garage on several occasions, and it is not close to full. I've been in the resident parking portions of the Carlysle too but don't recall noticing, unfortunately.
We had one parking spot (and had been renting a second one since my then girlfriend, now wife, moved in, entirely for the luxury of keeping my little-used car). We sold our condo in 72 hours with multiple offers for above ask.
Rich people who live downtown are not doing it to store their cars (which they can also store at their lake place). While yes, some will be families with two working adults who might own and use two cars regularly, others will be retirees who only have one or even none!
I repeat, our thinking about parking is entirely messed up.
I've been in the resident parking portions of the Nic's garage on several occasions, and it is not close to full. I've been in the resident parking portions of the Carlysle too but don't recall noticing, unfortunately.
We had one parking spot (and had been renting a second one since my then girlfriend, now wife, moved in, entirely for the luxury of keeping my little-used car). We sold our condo in 72 hours with multiple offers for above ask.
Rich people who live downtown are not doing it to store their cars (which they can also store at their lake place). While yes, some will be families with two working adults who might own and use two cars regularly, others will be retirees who only have one or even none!
I repeat, our thinking about parking is entirely messed up.
-
- IDS Center
- Posts: 4371
- Joined: February 8th, 2014, 11:33 pm
- Location: Marcy-Holmes
Re: United Properties / Four Seasons "Gateway" Project (Nicollet Hotel Block)
So this may be the most recent rendering. It's the newest one on United's website and wasn't there last week
Re: United Properties / Four Seasons "Gateway" Project (Nicollet Hotel Block)
Interesting... does that even leave enough space for the streetcar?
Also, wow, the mixture of real and placeholder buildings in the background is extremely distracting.
Also, wow, the mixture of real and placeholder buildings in the background is extremely distracting.
Joey Senkyr
[email protected]
[email protected]
-
- Metrodome
- Posts: 78
- Joined: June 4th, 2012, 6:15 am
Re: United Properties / Four Seasons "Gateway" Project (Nicollet Hotel Block)
Let's mirror that across Hennepin and make it a real 'gateway'.
Re: United Properties / Four Seasons "Gateway" Project (Nicollet Hotel Block)
I'm actually kind of happy they are reaching for a more clean modernist style in the location with the yamasaki buildings and the federal reserve out actually kind of creates a modernist district.
-
- IDS Center
- Posts: 4371
- Joined: February 8th, 2014, 11:33 pm
- Location: Marcy-Holmes
Re: United Properties / Four Seasons "Gateway" Project (Nicollet Hotel Block)
And the library, hell even 4marq. If we could extend that into the precast concrete district it'd be great!
Precast Concrete District: Starting at Marq/4th St and going to 3rd Ave/3rd St. 2 blocks of horrible buildings that hurt.
Precast Concrete District: Starting at Marq/4th St and going to 3rd Ave/3rd St. 2 blocks of horrible buildings that hurt.
Re: United Properties / Four Seasons "Gateway" Project (Nicollet Hotel Block)
I think this is actually the latest rendering:
I found it on the page with all their current projects. You can see the streetcar here notability. (I could be wrong and this is actually an older rendering than the others which I have seen up there for several months.)
I found it on the page with all their current projects. You can see the streetcar here notability. (I could be wrong and this is actually an older rendering than the others which I have seen up there for several months.)
-
- IDS Center
- Posts: 4371
- Joined: February 8th, 2014, 11:33 pm
- Location: Marcy-Holmes
Re: United Properties / Four Seasons "Gateway" Project (Nicollet Hotel Block)
I don't really want to argue this but that rendering came out back in August or so and doesn't include the skyway to the library. And it's also not as high of a quality rendering.
Re: United Properties / Four Seasons "Gateway" Project (Nicollet Hotel Block)
Then we probably don't have the latest renderings referred to in the documents filed with the city.
-
- IDS Center
- Posts: 4371
- Joined: February 8th, 2014, 11:33 pm
- Location: Marcy-Holmes
Re: United Properties / Four Seasons "Gateway" Project (Nicollet Hotel Block)
Whatever they updated the page March 7th
Re: United Properties / Four Seasons "Gateway" Project (Nicollet Hotel Block)
Is it bad that I like the precast look ?
Re: United Properties / Four Seasons "Gateway" Project (Nicollet Hotel Block)
precast isn't inherently bad. 4 marq is a good example of very architectural interesting pre cast.Is it bad that I like the precast look ?
The Opus developments on Nicollet however seem to have lackluster coloring, texture and architectural detail.
Not all precast is the same, there are differences in aggregate, texture, dimension, pigment etc etc, and you can tell when it cheapens a project or enhances it.
Re: United Properties / Four Seasons "Gateway" Project (Nicollet Hotel Block)
Well, here's to hoping its something more similar to what grant posted. The other one is a hot mess. Lack of an obvious streetcar route is interesting, however.
Towns!
-
- Wells Fargo Center
- Posts: 1147
- Joined: November 12th, 2015, 11:35 am
- Location: Minneapolis
Re: United Properties / Four Seasons "Gateway" Project (Nicollet Hotel Block)
The sooner the Nicollet-Central streetcar idea dies, the better.
-
- Landmark Center
- Posts: 250
- Joined: February 11th, 2018, 11:51 am
Re: United Properties / Four Seasons "Gateway" Project (Nicollet Hotel Block)
I like the podium shape. Much better than the standard box.I think this is actually the latest rendering:
I found it on the page with all their current projects. You can see the streetcar here notability. (I could be wrong and this is actually an older rendering than the others which I have seen up there for several months.)
Re: United Properties / Four Seasons "Gateway" Project (Nicollet Hotel Block)
I know they're expensive and etc etc...but I think a gateway worthy public fountain on the corner of Washington and Nicollet would be a wonderful addition
Re: United Properties / Four Seasons "Gateway" Project (Nicollet Hotel Block)
It could be really nice historic nod and have an eclectic feel if they moved the original fountain back from the rose garden.I know they're expensive and etc etc...but I think a gateway worthy public fountain on the corner of Washington and Nicollet would be a wonderful addition
Re: United Properties / Four Seasons "Gateway" Project (Nicollet Hotel Block)
The Rose Garden by Lake Harriet?
Re: United Properties / Four Seasons "Gateway" Project (Nicollet Hotel Block)
Amen!The sooner the Nicollet-Central streetcar idea dies, the better.
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 93 guests