Allianz Field and Snelling-Midway Development

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Re: Soccer Stadium and Snelling-Midway Development

Postby seanrichardryan » April 16th, 2018, 9:24 pm

Big Top got a letter from land-use endorsing the idea of the ordinance change. They say their lease ends Jan 2019. The move to perkins is planned as a 2-3 year temporary home. Will have new location somewhere onsite in new development.
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Re: Soccer Stadium and Snelling-Midway Development

Postby BigIdeasGuy » May 18th, 2018, 5:48 pm

On my way home today I stopped by the stadium and looked around so here is a quick update. Spoiler alert it's going up fast

The roof structure is basically complete, there are 2 or 3 crossbeams left to be installed and that's it. The roof its self isn't far behind.
There are 6 more section of white horizontal tubular steel that make up the wave patter left to be installed.
It looks like almost of the big heavy equipment has been removed from the seating bowl at this point. There still is gap to the north of the pressbox where larger equipment can go in and out but I doubt that remains much longer.
The vertical ribs that are underneath the PTFE facade appear to be ratchet straps more or less, something I found to be surprising.
The lighting on the horizontal elements that will illuminate the facade are being installed, I'm super excited to see it lit up for the first time.

I'm guessing most people saw this in the news but Allianz is going to host the Conacaf Gold Cup, the rumor is that the stadium will host the opening round of the event with the US playing here which is AWESOME!

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Re: Soccer Stadium and Snelling-Midway Development

Postby mamundsen » May 18th, 2018, 8:21 pm

There was a recent story that the price tag has risen to $250M. Up from the $150-200 estimate. I remember when it was first proposed as $100 even. Ha!

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Re: Soccer Stadium and Snelling-Midway Development

Postby cooperrez » May 22nd, 2018, 1:31 pm

Pretty sure those initial estimates were extremely rough and very early on in the process. Lowest number I ever saw was 150M.

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Re: Soccer Stadium and Snelling-Midway Development

Postby cooperrez » May 22nd, 2018, 1:45 pm

And MNUFC just tweeted this image of the PTFE skin going on...

https://twitter.com/MNUFC/status/999010 ... 05632?s=19

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Re: Soccer Stadium and Snelling-Midway Development

Postby Didier » May 22nd, 2018, 5:55 pm

Yeah the original estimates would have been for a pretty bare bones stadium, which never jived with the kind of stadium they were talking about building. I always figured they planned to spend much more but didn't want to overcommit at the beginning, especially since it all came together very fast and McGuire is still new to this whole sports ownership thing.

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Re: Soccer Stadium and Snelling-Midway Development

Postby jtoemke » May 31st, 2018, 7:12 pm

https://www.twincities.com/2018/05/31/r ... uperblock/

Not overly interesting but its going to be Mortenson

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Re: Soccer Stadium and Snelling-Midway Development

Postby seanrichardryan » June 1st, 2018, 9:01 am

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Re: Soccer Stadium and Snelling-Midway Development

Postby rhettcarlson » June 1st, 2018, 12:45 pm

jtoemke wrote:
May 31st, 2018, 7:12 pm
https://www.twincities.com/2018/05/31/r ... uperblock/

Not overly interesting but its going to be Mortenson
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I've heard these renderings described as the "Disneyland plan" by real estate types. I think it will be a long time before we see anything close to this happen, unfortunately. Like the article says, housing will probably happen first and is the safest bet. Can developers really make sense of market rate/luxury in this location? Office can barely get built in downtown Minneapolis, so I don't see anything more than filler space going in here. Doubling down on the retail presence/history of the area, you would like to think a higher-density "lifestyle center" could work as a 2nd incarnation of Midway Shopping Center and absorb some of the lost retail space... Time will tell.

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Re: Soccer Stadium and Snelling-Midway Development

Postby Qhaberl » June 1st, 2018, 12:51 pm

The article mentioned something about a record to seven year waiting period. Does that mean it’ll be approximately 4 to 7 years before the first building is built?


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Re: Soccer Stadium and Snelling-Midway Development

Postby BigIdeasGuy » June 1st, 2018, 6:33 pm

I've said from the beginning the stadium success or failure over the long term is going to be judged not by the how many people it draws but what is developed around it. What the site really needs is an anchor tenant that would bring a few thousand employees to the site Monday to Friday and that would jump start the entire development. Honestly it would be perfect for site for a back office for a major corporation that has it's HQ in either downtown, like say Target (but no they have they have that stupid campus next to a cornfield in Brooklyn Park that contributes nothing meaningful to anything). Unless Mortenson can somehow land that tenant I would guess we end up with a few standard issues 5 over 1 apartment building, that may or may not work, which is an upgrade for sure but falls short of what could have been.

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Re: Soccer Stadium and Snelling-Midway Development

Postby alexschief » June 13th, 2018, 7:58 pm

Photo of the fabric wrap of the stadium. I think that central piece is close to the maximum stretch, and how it will ultimately look.
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Re: Soccer Stadium and Snelling-Midway Development

Postby Didier » June 13th, 2018, 9:57 pm

I went by from the north (i.e. on the train) for the first time today, and the north side is really striking with the roof line dipping down. It really does look like a spaceship, albeit a spaceship with a McDonalds out front.

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Re: Soccer Stadium and Snelling-Midway Development

Postby karlshea » June 14th, 2018, 8:39 am

I got to see a little bit of the fabric up close at the season ticket seat experience thing, and it's more grey than I thought it would be from the renders.

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Re: Soccer Stadium and Snelling-Midway Development

Postby cooperrez » June 14th, 2018, 10:07 am

The wrap isn't as attractive as the drawings. I hope once it's fully covered it will look different, but so far it looks like the debris mesh covering you see on scaffolding during remodeling jobs.

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Re: Soccer Stadium and Snelling-Midway Development

Postby xandrex » June 14th, 2018, 10:49 am

I've been thinking the same thing, as I drive by this every day to work. Maybe it will improve once it's fully wrapped, but right now it just looks really cheap to me.

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Re: Soccer Stadium and Snelling-Midway Development

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Re: Soccer Stadium and Snelling-Midway Development

Postby Minnehahaha » June 14th, 2018, 5:51 pm

Been watching for this article on the Bremer site since Silophant posted the meeting notice a few days ago:

https://www.twincities.com/2018/06/13/1 ... anz-field/

It doesn't mention Walgreens like the meeting notice does, and I do wonder how they could fit both that and the bank into this space.

Either way, construction of 175 market rate apartments in this neighborhood is a big deal - it would have been unimaginable a couple of years ago!

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Re: Soccer Stadium and Snelling-Midway Development

Postby karlshea » June 14th, 2018, 8:56 pm

xandrex wrote:
June 14th, 2018, 10:49 am
I've been thinking the same thing, as I drive by this every day to work. Maybe it will improve once it's fully wrapped, but right now it just looks really cheap to me.
It was also designed to be backlit, so I guess I'll reserve judgement until I see it in person all lit up.


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