Iron Store - 528 Washington Ave N (Uncancelled)

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Re: Iron Store - 528 Washington Ave N

Postby MNdible » July 24th, 2018, 11:02 am

Dominium is also refining details on a new building that would go up on the north side of the site, which is currently a surface parking lot. That building would have 60 units and underground parking, said Nick Andersen, Dominium vice president and project partner.

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Re: Iron Store - 528 Washington Ave N

Postby lordmoke » September 13th, 2018, 3:31 pm

Plans from CoW: http://minneapolismn.gov/www/groups/pub ... 214018.pdf

Now includes development of the full block, as well as 7 stories of new construction on the surface lot at the south end.

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Re: Iron Store - 528 Washington Ave N

Postby Nathan » September 13th, 2018, 3:41 pm

Wow. Weird addition. I'm not a fan. Such awkward proportions, and aesthetic.

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Re: Iron Store - 528 Washington Ave N

Postby squrtis » September 13th, 2018, 3:57 pm

Garbage.

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Re: Iron Store - 528 Washington Ave N

Postby seanrichardryan » September 13th, 2018, 4:33 pm

Walk-up units and parking for 508 Washington is kind of offensive. This blocks needs a dash of active frontage. Lobbies are not active frontage unless you count double-parked UPS trucks in the bike lane as active.
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Re: Iron Store - 528 Washington Ave N

Postby Seth » September 13th, 2018, 8:33 pm

seanrichardryan wrote: Walk-up units and parking for 508 Washington is kind of offensive. This blocks needs a dash of active frontage. Lobbies are not active frontage unless you count double-parked UPS trucks in the bike lane as active.
Also, who wants a ground level unit directly facing Washington Ave? Retail would have no trouble here. Seems the developer just isn’t interested in bothering.

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Re: Iron Store - 528 Washington Ave N

Postby grant1simons2 » September 14th, 2018, 10:06 am

Has anyone seen the inside of these buildings? They're impressively preserved in its current state. Would be leased by a restaurant or retail tenant in less than a few months.

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Re: Iron Store - 528 Washington Ave N

Postby transplant » September 14th, 2018, 12:34 pm

I really hope the city doesn't approve this in its current design. No retail or even commercial space on an entire block of Washington should be a no go.

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Re: Iron Store - 528 Washington Ave N

Postby 5th Ave Guy » September 17th, 2018, 8:26 am

I always thought that big garage would be an amazing beer / food hall concept. Couldn't be a better location or historic building for it.

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Re: Iron Store - 528 Washington Ave N

Postby hoffm83n » September 17th, 2018, 3:58 pm

im at a loss for words for how bad this is. if it was just an empty lot, whatever. this is actively ruining a unique spot which is way too rare in minneapolis. page 9 with the streetscaping vision is laughable. ooh a metal bench and a hosta!!

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Re: Iron Store - 528 Washington Ave N

Postby NMMN22 » September 17th, 2018, 7:54 pm

I feel if retail or restaurant space cannot be included in this proposal than this is not an ideal location for affordable units. Especially with the location on Washington

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Re: North Loop Neighborhood

Postby Anondson » December 3rd, 2018, 8:21 am

Duffy Paper project for affordable housing died.

https://www.bizjournals.com/twincities/ ... y-for.html

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Postby jtoemke » December 3rd, 2018, 9:13 am

I'm happy/sad about this.

Affordable housing here would be good but the floor plans and building layout was awful, tons of windowless bedrooms, no retail, parking on Washington..etc.

Hope someone else picks this up.

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Re: North Loop Neighborhood

Postby MNdible » December 3rd, 2018, 11:36 am

Seems like it was just a matter of time before somebody called out Dominium on some of their development costs. It's one thing when you're dealing with very dilapidated/complex project sites (like the Fort Snelling buildings, or the Pillsbury complex) -- but this project should have been a pretty straightforward rehabilitation.

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Re: Iron Store - 528 Washington Ave N (Cancelled)

Postby mattaudio » December 4th, 2018, 9:39 am

This could easily be a market-rate condo conversion, right?

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Re: Iron Store - 528 Washington Ave N (Cancelled)

Postby Silophant » December 4th, 2018, 10:37 am

I would think. That would allow retail or something on Washington, too.

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Re: Iron Store - 528 Washington Ave N (Cancelled)

Postby jtoemke » December 4th, 2018, 12:20 pm

mattaudio wrote:
December 4th, 2018, 9:39 am
This could easily be a market-rate condo conversion, right?
The floor plates suck for residential honestly. Super deep. Cutting a light well out of the center would help. Typical residential construction is around 64ft wide. Stretched to 80ft works but creates lots of dark corners in the units and is honestly pretty terrible. This one is 120ft on the shallowest side - 163ft on the other.

So if they did "typical" unit depths of about 30ft with a 5ft hallway, that would still leave almost 55 feet in the center with nothing in it.

I guess you can have some "awesome" windowless amenities in that space. Movie lounge on one floor, bike storage, fitness room. Theyd just be huuuuuugeeeeee and atypical for sure.

If I had all the money in the world, I'd cut a 25ft wide light well and have 22.5' deep units on all sides with a 5ft hallway loop. Shallow depth units are way nice. Developers just don't like the linear facade to unit ratio. More expensive.

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Re: Iron Store - 528 Washington Ave N (Cancelled)

Postby Multimodal » December 4th, 2018, 12:42 pm

MNdible wrote:Seems like it was just a matter of time before somebody called out Dominium on some of their development costs. … this project should have been a pretty straightforward rehabilitation.
Tomorrow, Edina is hosting a forum for residents on the issues facing developers of affordable housing. I’m guessing the costs are pretty complex due to various requirements forced on them.

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Re: Iron Store - 528 Washington Ave N (Cancelled)

Postby Qhaberl » December 4th, 2018, 12:57 pm

Where is this taking place? Would love to go.


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Re: Iron Store - 528 Washington Ave N (Cancelled)

Postby mattaudio » December 4th, 2018, 1:47 pm

jtoemke wrote:
December 4th, 2018, 12:20 pm
The floor plates suck for residential honestly. Super deep. Cutting a light well out of the center would help. Typical residential construction is around 64ft wide. Stretched to 80ft works but creates lots of dark corners in the units and is honestly pretty terrible. This one is 120ft on the shallowest side - 163ft on the other.

So if they did "typical" unit depths of about 30ft with a 5ft hallway, that would still leave almost 55 feet in the center with nothing in it.
What about a combo of residential and non-residential uses on the same floorplate? I'm not sure if there are multiple elevator banks in the building, but seems like you could get a nice wall or L of residential units with a hallway, then have some sort of other use on the rest of the floorplates (possibly with lightwells). Seems like having bright, open spaces with natural light is more important for office floorplates than having actual views. Heck many office tower windows on lower floors in the CBD have no view other than other office tower windows.


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