North Loop Neighborhood

Downtown - North Loop - Mill District - Elliot Park - Loring Park
EOst
Capella Tower
Posts: 2277
Joined: March 19th, 2014, 8:05 pm
Location: North End, Saint Paul

Re: North Loop Neighborhood

Postby EOst » February 13th, 2019, 10:14 am

I like how the existing building reflects almost the entire sweep of the area's history; built in the 1880s as a tenement building pre-railroad trench, converted to warehousing in 1920 when the area lost its residential character, added onto throughout the 20th century without ever fully obscuring its original design and purpose. I'm not entirely convinced by their historic study's argument that the building is non-contributing.

seanrichardryan
Capella Tower
Posts: 3922
Joined: June 3rd, 2012, 9:33 pm
Location: Merriam Park, St. Paul
Contact:

Re: North Loop Neighborhood

Postby seanrichardryan » February 13th, 2019, 1:14 pm

Landscape Research will write a historic survey with whatever conclusion best suits your desired outcome.
Q. What, what? A. In da butt.

twincitizen
Moderator
Posts: 6178
Joined: May 31st, 2012, 7:27 pm
Location: Standish-Ericsson

Re: North Loop Neighborhood

Postby twincitizen » February 13th, 2019, 2:03 pm

alexschief wrote:
February 13th, 2019, 8:26 am
Proposal for a new building at 310 2nd Street North. 59 units, 124 parking spaces. Is this some kind of sick joke?
Let's not ignore that the proposal also has 1,400 square feet of commercial space, which could have anywhere from 5-15 spaces earmarked. I'm of two minds on this... On one hand, who is actually harmed by apartments including excess underground parking? It doesn't increase impervious surface, it doesn't add curb cuts or do anything else to harm the surrounding urban environment. On the other hand, it still seems like a no-brainer for the developer to ditch that lowest parking level (39 spaces) as a cost-saving measure. The remaining 85 spaces would be more than sufficient for 59 units and the small commercial space.

alexschief
Union Depot
Posts: 370
Joined: November 12th, 2015, 11:35 am
Location: Philadelphia

Re: North Loop Neighborhood

Postby alexschief » February 13th, 2019, 2:15 pm

twincitizen wrote:
February 13th, 2019, 2:03 pm
alexschief wrote:
February 13th, 2019, 8:26 am
Proposal for a new building at 310 2nd Street North. 59 units, 124 parking spaces. Is this some kind of sick joke?
Let's not ignore that the proposal also has 1,400 square feet of commercial space, which could have anywhere from 5-15 spaces earmarked. I'm of two minds on this... On one hand, who is actually harmed by apartments including excess underground parking? It doesn't increase impervious surface, it doesn't add curb cuts or do anything else to harm the surrounding urban environment. On the other hand, it still seems like a no-brainer for the developer to ditch that lowest parking level (39 spaces) as a cost-saving measure. The remaining 85 spaces would be more than sufficient for 59 units and the small commercial space.
As a matter of fact, I wrote about this exact question yesterday, on the subject of the Fed's proposed parking ramp.

We are all harmed by excess parking, because the research shows unequivocally that excess parking leads to excess driving. Excess driving, of course, leads to more emissions of carbon and other pollutants, more danger on the road, and a less vibrant neighborhood. If a developer wants to light their money on fire, that's their concern, but if a developer want to light their money on fire in a way that harms the environment, we all should get involved.

Multimodal
US Bank Plaza
Posts: 660
Joined: March 4th, 2016, 7:55 am
Location: Oh, no, the burbs!

Re: North Loop Neighborhood

Postby Multimodal » February 13th, 2019, 10:57 pm

I presume this will be paid parking, not “free” parking, so it’s somewhat different from your (excellent) article.

alexschief
Union Depot
Posts: 370
Joined: November 12th, 2015, 11:35 am
Location: Philadelphia

Re: North Loop Neighborhood

Postby alexschief » February 14th, 2019, 8:49 am

I think the Fed's ramp will be paid parking, and the proposed project at 310 2nd St will be "free to residents (obviously folded into the cost paid by the tenant). It doesn't dramatically change the analysis either way, unless they charge substantially more than the current market rate. Parking in Minneapolis is underpriced if you start adding up the externalities of what it induces.

grant1simons2
IDS Center
Posts: 4281
Joined: February 8th, 2014, 11:33 pm
Location: Marcy-Holmes

Re: North Loop Neighborhood

Postby grant1simons2 » February 19th, 2019, 11:18 am

North Loop is finally getting a Lulu

http://mspmag.com/shop-and-style/lulule ... orth-loop/

User avatar
jtoemke
Landmark Center
Posts: 232
Joined: March 5th, 2015, 8:04 am
Location: Columbus OH

Re: North Loop Neighborhood

Postby jtoemke » February 19th, 2019, 12:17 pm

The article said "NoLo" for north loop... is this another East Town moment. Why.

grant1simons2
IDS Center
Posts: 4281
Joined: February 8th, 2014, 11:33 pm
Location: Marcy-Holmes

Re: North Loop Neighborhood

Postby grant1simons2 » February 19th, 2019, 1:47 pm

Its much more socially acceptable to say Nolo. Nolo's kitchen, Nolo Flats, D. Nolo.

thisisdeception
Block E
Posts: 6
Joined: March 24th, 2016, 9:08 am

Re: North Loop Neighborhood

Postby thisisdeception » February 19th, 2019, 1:54 pm

Are we going with "no-low" or "no-loo"?


Return to “Minneapolis - Downtown”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest