200 Central (2019) - 293' / 27 Stories

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200 Central (2019) - 293' / 27 Stories

Postby xandrex » December 11th, 2019, 3:27 pm

It's back - this time as apartments in a shorter building with more units.

Was: 40 stories, 214 units
Now: 27 stories, 356 apartments
Not a bad project by any means, but it definitely is less attractive with the 13-story reduction.

Mod Note: this is the thread for the 2019 apartment tower incarnation of this project. Find the original discussion dating back to 2014(‽) here.

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Re: Alia Tower - 200 Central - 483' / 40 Stories

Postby Anondson » December 11th, 2019, 3:34 pm

Form follows financials.

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Re: Alia Tower - 200 Central - 483' / 40 Stories

Postby Bob Stinson's Ghost » December 11th, 2019, 7:20 pm

Wedge-live guy seems kinda grumpy they didn't go ahead with the condos for millionaires.

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Re: Alia Tower - 200 Central - 483' / 40 Stories

Postby Anondson » December 11th, 2019, 8:21 pm

I could be wrong... but I don’t think John expressed much preference for one vs the other and more was needling the lawsuit-losers who said they were actually concerned these condos were luxury (plus heights to blot out gardens) but in other contexts even more bothered rentals were growing all around their neighborhood.

Now they get no ownership from this and they get even greater density, in addition to having spent all that money on losing a lawsuit.

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Re: Alia Tower - 200 Central - 483' / 40 Stories

Postby elliotDTown » December 12th, 2019, 10:47 am

Bob Stinson's Ghost wrote:
December 11th, 2019, 7:20 pm
Wedge-live guy seems kinda grumpy they didn't go ahead with the condos for millionaires.
I am no where near millionaire but would rather look at a millionaire condo building raising my property value then crappy developments. I'm two blocks from this site and would love to see something grand, elegant and large.

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Re: Alia Tower - 200 Central - 483' / 40 Stories

Postby jtoemke » December 12th, 2019, 10:59 am

Honestly just glad its not only 6 stories.

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Re: Alia Tower - 200 Central - 483' / 40 Stories

Postby twincitizen » December 12th, 2019, 1:02 pm

If you go back to the very beginning of this thread, the initial announcement and reporting on this project all noted a 25-30 story development. Only later did it grow to 35, and then 40 stories in final design. If the newly proposed 27-story building was the only thing we’d ever seen for this site, I’m sure we’d all be quite happy with it. This is still a very significant development for this site! It’s taller and more dense than many, many projects on the downtown side of the river, and will be among the tallest 3 or 4 buildings on the east side of the river.

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Re: Alia Tower - 200 Central - 483' / 40 Stories

Postby BigIdeasGuy » December 12th, 2019, 6:11 pm

Ouch, that height reduction caused the project to lose almost all it's elegance in that picture. Still a great project

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Re: Alia Tower - 200 Central - 483' / 40 Stories

Postby CalMcKenney » December 13th, 2019, 8:34 am

@Twincitizen agreed. As long as this gets built, and relatively soon, I will be more than happy to see a 300 ft building that I still think looks nice rise on that side of the river. Will continue to add to that skyline and add density the area.

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Re: Alia Tower - 200 Central - 483' / 40 Stories

Postby twincitizen » December 13th, 2019, 10:10 am

Should we split this into a new topic (starting with the apartment announcement) and archive this 5.5-year old thread? The old stuff will all still be visible, just in a locked topic.

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Re: Alia Tower - 200 Central - 483' / 40 Stories

Postby Silophant » December 13th, 2019, 10:49 am

Yeah, that'll be easiest I think.

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Re: Alia Tower - 200 Central - 483' / 40 Stories

Postby Qhaberl » December 14th, 2019, 10:08 am

I think archiving it would be a good idea. In the first post of the new topic, there should be a link so that people can click back to the archived version.


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Re: 200 Central (2019) - ~300'? / 27 Stories

Postby lordmoke » December 16th, 2019, 3:55 pm


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Re: 200 Central (2019) - ~300'? / 27 Stories

Postby Oreos&Milk » December 16th, 2019, 11:13 pm

lordmoke wrote:
December 16th, 2019, 3:55 pm
Hey look, plans: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... aGFTihp4FF
Great find!

Not sure I like how the tower lines Central Ave instead of being pushed back to the back side of the podium. There is a great 3-6 floor vide in this area that would be greatly complemented. As well as not overpowering the square nearby as well. Plus the views from the pool on the podium would be much better facing Central Ave instead of the parking lot. It's a minor thing, but I do gotta say I like the roof having some shape. Not a standard box shape, even if it's subtle it's refreshing.

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Re: 200 Central (2019) - 293' / 27 Stories

Postby alexschief » December 17th, 2019, 9:28 am

So this is no longer an Alatus project? CA Ventures bought the land and basically the same design and lobbed fifteen stories off and made it apartments? As the kids say, that's praxis.

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Re: 200 Central (2019) - 293' / 27 Stories

Postby Nick » December 17th, 2019, 9:43 am

[throws tomato]

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Re: 200 Central (2019) - 293' / 27 Stories

Postby CalMcKenney » December 17th, 2019, 9:50 am

I wish they'd bring back that light-bar from the 12th street apartments proposal. I think as dumb as it sounds, that simple addition would have made us all pleased with the design even with the reduction in height relative to Alia. It would add something unique to the building.

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Re: 200 Central (2019) - 293' / 27 Stories

Postby TroyGBiv » December 17th, 2019, 10:12 am

alexschief wrote:
December 17th, 2019, 9:28 am
So this is no longer an Alatus project? CA Ventures bought the land and basically the same design and lobbed fifteen stories off and made it apartments? As the kids say, that's praxis.
Wow I missed that as I looked at the doc on google drive! CA Ventures is coming into this market in a huge way!

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Re: 200 Central (2019) - ~300'? / 27 Stories

Postby amiller92 » December 17th, 2019, 10:35 am

Oreos&Milk wrote:
December 16th, 2019, 11:13 pm
Great find!

Not sure I like how the tower lines Central Ave instead of being pushed back to the back side of the podium. There is a great 3-6 floor vide in this area that would be greatly complemented. As well as not overpowering the square nearby as well. Plus the views from the pool on the podium would be much better facing Central Ave instead of the parking lot. It's a minor thing, but I do gotta say I like the roof having some shape. Not a standard box shape, even if it's subtle it's refreshing.
Better yet, no podium? Or something.

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Re: 200 Central (2019) - 293' / 27 Stories

Postby TroyGBiv » January 7th, 2020, 9:44 pm

He community meeting was tonight... anybody go to the meeting? The meeting even was promoted on Channel 5...


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