West End area - St. Louis Park / Golden Valley

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Re: West End / Central Park West Development - St. Louis Park

Postby bapster2006 » October 24th, 2019, 4:19 pm

On that note, Olive Garden is closed.

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Re: West End / Central Park West Development - St. Louis Park

Postby Nick » October 25th, 2019, 6:35 am

Damn really? I thought that was next month. Wanted to go one last time.
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Re: West End / Central Park West Development - St. Louis Park

Postby Ubermoose » October 25th, 2019, 8:35 am

I believe they have relocated to 394 and Hopkins Crossroad.

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Re: West End / Central Park West Development - St. Louis Park

Postby colink » October 25th, 2019, 9:15 am

Yes, they built a new building.

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Re: West End / Central Park West Development - St. Louis Park

Postby talindsay » October 29th, 2019, 3:17 pm

Damn really? I thought that was next month. Wanted to go one last time.
Guess you'll have to microwave your own pasta sauce.

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Re: West End / Central Park West Development - St. Louis Park

Postby colink » January 23rd, 2020, 9:49 am

So it looks like the framing of the Spec office building in West End is up to about the 6th floor but I don't see anything that looks like an elevator core. Is this common? It seems that usually the elevator bank rises with the building. Just curious.

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Re: West End / Central Park West Development - St. Louis Park

Postby MNdible » January 23rd, 2020, 10:34 am

In most taller buildings, a cast-in-place concrete elevator core is part of the lateral bracing that prevents the building from tipping over in a stiff breeze. But the steel framing of the building can do the same thing by introducing floor-to-floor diagonal bracing, or by other more complicated structural trickery.

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Re: West End / Central Park West Development - St. Louis Park

Postby MattW » March 19th, 2020, 1:41 pm

Punch Bowl Social is closing due to Covid-19 http://tcbmag.com/news/articles/2020/ma ... shuts-down

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Postby MattW » March 19th, 2020, 7:11 pm

Punch Bowl Social is closing due to Covid-19 http://tcbmag.com/news/articles/2020/ma ... shuts-down
Guess they changed their mind. Only temporary now

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Re: West End / Central Park West Development - St. Louis Park

Postby Anondson » March 31st, 2020, 9:29 pm

10 West End has landed their first tenant in the speculative offices under construction. CarVal Investors, a spin off from Cargill if I understand it right.

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Relocating from offices at Excelsior Crossing in Hopkins to the other end of the North Cedar Lake Trail.

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Re: West End area - St. Louis Park / Golden Valley

Postby Anondson » November 22nd, 2022, 3:44 pm

Ryan planning the matching pair to 10 West End… will be 20 West End.

https://www.bizjournals.com/twincities/ ... lding.html

The surface lots are disappearing over there.

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Re: West End area - St. Louis Park / Golden Valley

Postby bubzki2 » November 22nd, 2022, 3:57 pm

Are we close to hitting some kind of urban density threshold in this area? Still untold acres of parking around, but it's certainly an area with real promise.

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Re: West End area - St. Louis Park / Golden Valley

Postby Bakken2016 » November 22nd, 2022, 4:28 pm

Are we close to hitting some kind of urban density threshold in this area? Still untold acres of parking around, but it's certainly an area with real promise.
I wish we would have good frequent transit to that area! But the 9 and 645 really dissapoint.

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Re: West End area - St. Louis Park / Golden Valley

Postby Silophant » November 22nd, 2022, 4:36 pm

It boggles the mind that, as far as I can tell, there's not even a preliminary plan for BRT on 394.
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Re: West End area - St. Louis Park / Golden Valley

Postby mamundsen » November 22nd, 2022, 4:39 pm

How are the older office buildings doing in the area? I know IHeart takes up a lot of space in the south building (1600 Utica). Is Moneygram still in 1550 Utica?

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Re: West End area - St. Louis Park / Golden Valley

Postby Uptown46 » November 22nd, 2022, 6:44 pm

There was some preliminary study of a 394 BRT line in the Highway Transitway Corridor Study (2014) https://metrocouncil.org/Transportation ... Study.aspx It actually rated well in the study.

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Re: West End area - St. Louis Park / Golden Valley

Postby Trademark » November 22nd, 2022, 8:10 pm

There was some preliminary study of a 394 BRT line in the Highway Transitway Corridor Study (2014) https://metrocouncil.org/Transportation ... Study.aspx It actually rated well in the study.
That study IIRC along with most other corridors studies had some pretty dismal end to end travel times due to a lot of offline stops to park and rides. I would like to see one that had some on line or in line stations to make it more competitive with driving.

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Re: West End area - St. Louis Park / Golden Valley

Postby daveybabymsp » November 22nd, 2022, 8:29 pm

There was some preliminary study of a 394 BRT line in the Highway Transitway Corridor Study (2014) https://metrocouncil.org/Transportation ... Study.aspx It actually rated well in the study.
They could start with giving the 645 half decent frequency


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Re: West End area - St. Louis Park / Golden Valley

Postby Tom H. » November 23rd, 2022, 9:57 am

Is it completely infeasible to study a single-stop LRT extension with a station, perhaps, in the center of Park Pl Blvd? It wouldn't be "cheap", per se, but could likely be completely state-funded and thus circumvent FTA requirements and maybe have an accelerated timeline. You could envision a piecemeal, station-by-station extension to General Mills, Ridgedale, and even Wayzata as funding is available. My napkin math for the first leg is 1.5 miles of track, one trainset, and one station - maybe $150M - $200M?

I know this is more than a bit pie-in-the-sky - probably the biggest hurdles would be political will in the face of SWLRT, and also how you would run it operationally. Running a single train back and forth from Target Field might be the cheapest option if there was just the one station at West End, but a better long-term option would probably be running it as an entirely new service, interlined to either MoA or DT St Paul (or both), but either of those would require significantly more trainsets.

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Re: West End area - St. Louis Park / Golden Valley

Postby Silophant » November 23rd, 2022, 10:29 am

The claim has always been that the 5th St segment downtown cannot support trains more frequently than every five minutes (per direction), so 10 minute frequency on two services is the best that can be done unless a tunnel is built. I'm reasonably sure that the issue is more a refusal to delay cross traffic more than an actual engineering constraint, since Dallas manages to interline four services through their downtown segment, but that's what they say.

I've thought for a while that the best solution to the Kenilworth bottleneck issues would just have been to single-track between 21st St and Lake St stations, and split into a 20-minute frequency branch that does the current SWLRT route and a complementary branch that goes to West End and then down 394 to wherever, but that ship clearly sailed years and years ago.
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