222 & Whole Foods - (222 Hennepin Avenue)

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Re: 222 & Whole Foods - (222 Hennepin Avenue)

Postby Chauncey87 » March 19th, 2013, 9:33 pm

The pictures sure make this building more bulky then I first thought. Is this a standard city block size? As much as I wanted a highrise on this block, I will say so far what I see, I like.

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Re: 222 & Whole Foods - (222 Hennepin Avenue)

Postby min-chi-cbus » March 20th, 2013, 7:03 am

I have to say, it's funny seeing people's 180 degree turn on the perspective of this project: from utter hatred a few months ago to almost admiration now! But hey, there's nothing wrong about being passionate about what goes into your city, right?

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Re: 222 & Whole Foods - (222 Hennepin Avenue)

Postby sushisimo » March 20th, 2013, 8:16 am

I was about 60% on board and have slid to about 45%. I'm not really digging the cave-like rooftop courtyard and whatever they're doing to make all the units have window exposure. It seems awkward, clunky and convoluted. Maybe when those cornice tower things start to rise, it will start to look better.

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Re: 222 & Whole Foods - (222 Hennepin Avenue)

Postby Unity77 » March 20th, 2013, 9:56 am

I have to say, it's funny seeing people's 180 degree turn on the perspective of this project: from utter hatred a few months ago to almost admiration now! But hey, there's nothing wrong about being passionate about what goes into your city, right?
I'm still not a fan.

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Re: 222 & Whole Foods - (222 Hennepin Avenue)

Postby ECtransplant » March 20th, 2013, 1:18 pm

I'm less of a fan than I was. I was more happy about getting *anything* on that vacant lot I think -- and the Whole Foods, of course. Now, whenever I pass this thing, I am quite underwhelmed.

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Re: 222 & Whole Foods - (222 Hennepin Avenue)

Postby nordeast homer » March 20th, 2013, 2:00 pm

The upside of a new building should not simply be that it is relacing a building that was an eyesore, there should be...more. I'm not even asking for the 'wow factor' that the Magellan tower has, just something that would differentiate this building from every other 5 or 6 story building built in the last 5 years. (I know it has Whole Foods, I'm talking more appearance than anything else.)

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Re: 222 & Whole Foods - (222 Hennepin Avenue)

Postby mnmike » March 20th, 2013, 2:06 pm

It has those tower thingys...I will wait to see how those turn out and how the outside looks when it is done for final judgement. I am sure it will look fine.

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Re: 222 & Whole Foods - (222 Hennepin Avenue)

Postby bapster2006 » March 27th, 2013, 7:24 pm

The tower at Hennepin and N 2nd St

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Re: 222 & Whole Foods - (222 Hennepin Avenue)

Postby beykite » March 29th, 2013, 12:50 pm

222 Exterior

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Re: 222 & Whole Foods - (222 Hennepin Avenue)

Postby bapster2006 » April 13th, 2013, 3:03 pm

Corner of Hennepin and Washington. It has a massive presence.

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Re: 222 & Whole Foods - (222 Hennepin Avenue)

Postby Nathan » April 13th, 2013, 3:25 pm

Totally, It no projects a half block farther than anything on the west side of Hennipen [sic] from the river past 3rd... it's almost like there is nothing around it... MOAR buildings please!

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Re: 222 & Whole Foods - (222 Hennepin Avenue)

Postby seanrichardryan » April 13th, 2013, 3:35 pm

Image

While they seem to be using some good materials, this like so many others is going to look really busy when its done. The whole rear wall it littered with little vents, magipaks, hanging balconies and confusing window placements. It fills a void, and is scaled well for the street, but the level of overall design seems low on the 2nd street facade.
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Re: 222 & Whole Foods - (222 Hennepin Avenue)

Postby John » April 13th, 2013, 4:29 pm

Some of the vertical metal paneling (on the upper floors at the corners) of the complex already looked warped last time I walked by. While I like the look, it's already not aging well. I hope they at least replace the warped panels to create a more even surface.

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Re: 222 & Whole Foods - (222 Hennepin Avenue)

Postby Jfuss » April 16th, 2013, 6:11 pm

Information courtesy of the 2020 Partners.

Sorry if this has been posted before, but here is a PPT Presentation given during a March 2013 meeting of 222 and Whole Foods, http://the2020partners.com/wordpress/wp ... 031913.pdf

Here are some other tidbits about the project from a March 2013 meeting. Again sorry if this information is already known.
It will offer 286 premium market rate apartments and a 40,000 square foot Whole Foods.
A model apartment opened on March 15; it is open weekends and by appointment for tours.
The price point is $2 per square foot, with apartment prices ranging from $1,000 – $3,500 for penthouse units; all of the penthouse units are gone.
The Whole Foods store will have a 28-foot-high ceiling with a mezzanine level. Retail parking will have a separate entrance and will be separate from residential parking.

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Re: 222 & Whole Foods - (222 Hennepin Avenue)

Postby MotorCity2TwinCities » April 21st, 2013, 2:26 pm

222.jpg

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Re: 222 & Whole Foods - (222 Hennepin Avenue)

Postby mrcity » April 25th, 2013, 8:16 pm

Hmmm, I'm no expert that's for sure...but my impression is....cheap windows.....ugly brickwork...too many different materials on the exterior.....Can someone smarter than me explain why so many new apartment buildings take the approach of mixing different materials, textures, color shades to develop the exterior? If the goal is to save money, wouldn't one ugly surface be better than four mixed together?

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Re: 222 & Whole Foods - (222 Hennepin Avenue)

Postby Tcmetro » April 25th, 2013, 8:41 pm

Probably cause they're trying to look trendy, and they're being cheap because they're building apartments.

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Re: 222 & Whole Foods - (222 Hennepin Avenue)

Postby ECtransplant » April 25th, 2013, 8:44 pm

But these are "luxury" apartments

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Re: 222 & Whole Foods - (222 Hennepin Avenue)

Postby nasa35 » April 25th, 2013, 9:12 pm

worst project ever

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Re: 222 & Whole Foods - (222 Hennepin Avenue)

Postby mattaudio » April 25th, 2013, 9:43 pm

True, it is not even close to 1000 feet, even if they added a spire.


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