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Re: Green Line (Central Corridor LRT)

Postby David Greene » June 11th, 2014, 8:21 pm

I saw a eastbound train with a destination of Target Field, so not everything is fixed.

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Re: Green Line (Central Corridor LRT)

Postby FISHMANPET » June 11th, 2014, 8:39 pm

I've seen a few trains that say "Target Field" and then today I saw a train that said "Downtown Minneapolis" so I wonder if they're still deciding.

I also saw a guy run to the East Bank platform and flag down a passing Campus Connector, trying to catch it there. Didn't think that one through all the way buddy.

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Re: Green Line (Central Corridor LRT)

Postby IllogicalJake » June 12th, 2014, 8:07 am

FISHMANPET wrote:I've seen a few trains that say "Target Field" and then today I saw a train that said "Downtown Minneapolis" so I wonder if they're still deciding.

I also saw a guy run to the East Bank platform and flag down a passing Campus Connector, trying to catch it there. Didn't think that one through all the way buddy.
David Greene wrote:I saw a eastbound train with a destination of Target Field, so not everything is fixed.
I'm not 100% sure how it's done, but the signage is a very manual process. Each driver has a control panel in the driver's area. I'd guess some of those panels are more behind in being updated than others. Although I've only seen "Downtown Minneapolis" on Blue Line Bombardiers, I've seen both "Target Field" and "Downtown E/Metrodome" show up west-bound, and I'm not surprised if there are other variations, too.

Hopefully they'll have that all settled by opening day. Otherwise the lack of consistency will really bug me, more than it already does in the Bombardier/Siemons cars.
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Re: Green Line (Central Corridor LRT)

Postby IllogicalJake » June 12th, 2014, 8:24 am

For those that really feel an anti-Green-Line bias from MPR, it might be useful to see how much support MPR's The Current has thrown behind the project, and also that MetroTransit has been a big sponsor leading up to the line's opening. There doesn't seem to be too many hurt feelings among the group.

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And for everyone out and about that day, MPR and The Current will be a part of the celebration going on at Union Depot. Hope to see lots of people. 8-)
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Re: Green Line (Central Corridor LRT)

Postby Tcmetro » June 12th, 2014, 8:37 am

Looks like there will be some protesters too, LOL:

http://www.twincities.com/transportatio ... sters-well

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Re: Green Line (Central Corridor LRT)

Postby mulad » June 12th, 2014, 9:24 am

IllogicalJake wrote:For those that really feel an anti-Green-Line bias from MPR, it might be useful to see how much support MPR's The Current has thrown behind the project...
Yeah, I was going to mention a while back that Steve Seel and Jill Riley have both been very excited about the line when they bring it up in morning news discussions. Bob Collins who does the News Cut blog is also heard on the station in the afternoon, and he's been much more cranky about it. Note: His Twitter icon has long been an image of Carl Fredricksen from Up, though it is currently an image of balloons from the movie.

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Re: Green Line (Central Corridor LRT)

Postby mullen » June 12th, 2014, 9:38 am

that "protest" article from the pi press is good for a throwback thursday. reads like the arguments from the 90's when hiawatha line was being debated. a lot of minnesotans still think this is small place and transit is only for really "big" cities on the east coast.

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Re: Green Line (Central Corridor LRT)

Postby Tyler » June 12th, 2014, 9:44 am

That drivers ed bit is golden. Audible lol.
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Re: Green Line (Central Corridor LRT)

Postby IllogicalJake » June 12th, 2014, 12:51 pm

Alright, yeah, just saw three Green Line trains come by in a row, same direction, with different signage. "Downtown Eas/Metrodome","Target Field","Downtown Minneapolis"

Also, three Green Lines came by before a Blue Line. They really are putting a lot of trains out there.
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Re: Green Line (Central Corridor LRT)

Postby twincitizen » June 12th, 2014, 1:08 pm

Tcmetro wrote:Looks like there will be some protesters too, LOL:

http://www.twincities.com/transportatio ... sters-well
Protest the protestors? That would be fun.

On a more serious note, anyone from urbanmsp going to any event(s) on Saturday? Either the concerts on either end or the Summit pub crawl thing?

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Re: Green Line (Central Corridor LRT)

Postby PhilmerPhil » June 12th, 2014, 1:36 pm

Saturday's a packed day, but I figured I'll roughly schedule my day as follows:

10-2pm: Do Green line stuff
2-8pm: Sleep
8-12am: Day of Familia (it's a skateboarding thing.)
12am-wee hours: Northern Spark

So if anyone's going to the Green Line festivities in the morning/early afternoon, let me know!

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Re: Green Line (Central Corridor LRT)

Postby grant1simons2 » June 12th, 2014, 2:32 pm

Bob Tatreau plans to drive from his Woodbury home to St. Paul's Frogtown neighborhood Saturday morning to protest the debut of the state's second light-rail service.
Why.... There is absolutely no point.

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Re: Green Line (Central Corridor LRT)

Postby Tcmetro » June 12th, 2014, 2:42 pm

I suppose there has been a somewhat organized backlash to transit in Washington County. If you take a look at the Facebook pages for both the Gateway and Red Rock corridors, you will see a lot of anti-transit postings from a group called "Washington County Watchdogs". I would imagine they will try to spread their cause over to Ramsey County as they are conducting the Rush Line study now.

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Re: Green Line (Central Corridor LRT)

Postby talindsay » June 12th, 2014, 2:50 pm

I'm sure he'll be really popular in Frogtown. Nice that he chose that specific area.

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Re: Green Line (Central Corridor LRT)

Postby Suburban Outcast » June 12th, 2014, 8:19 pm

I'll be coming from Little Canada with my cousin, to celebrate more trains.

Just because it doesn't directly serve me, does not make it useless. I wish some people could get that through their heads. If the Blue Line can get a 37% farebox recovery ratio, I bet this could get about 40-45% at least.

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Re: Green Line (Central Corridor LRT)

Postby mulad » June 12th, 2014, 9:19 pm

There was definitely a lot of traffic on the line today. I started seeing 3-car trains again, so that's good.

At one point, there were two trains parked at Union Depot with kind of odd destinations on their message boards -- one was cycling "Downtown" / "Minneapolis", and the other was "Downtown Eas" (missing the "t"). I will say that there are some services out there where the destination board message changes as the vehicle travels along its route. It might make sense for a westbound train to start out with "Minneapolis" as a destination, then get more specific, such as when it gets to Westgate station on the border. Can't say that I understand the point of a "Downtown East" destination, but whatever.

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Re: Green Line (Central Corridor LRT)

Postby min-chi-cbus » June 12th, 2014, 10:08 pm

Tcmetro wrote:I suppose there has been a somewhat organized backlash to transit in Washington County. If you take a look at the Facebook pages for both the Gateway and Red Rock corridors, you will see a lot of anti-transit postings from a group called "Washington County Watchdogs". I would imagine they will try to spread their cause over to Ramsey County as they are conducting the Rush Line study now.
Maybe I'll wonder over to Washington County every time a road or highway projects is being proposed or breaking ground? Same for any cookie-cutter greenfield development projects. I'll fight every project that county wins that doesn't benefit me, myself and I.

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Re: Green Line (Central Corridor LRT)

Postby grant1simons2 » June 12th, 2014, 11:42 pm

TcMetro,

I lived in Washington county for 5 years. Let me just say never ever again. There is absolutely no support for transit unless you're in Stillwater. It's just no fun being there, future isn't very bright.

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Re: Green Line (Central Corridor LRT)

Postby Suburban Outcast » June 12th, 2014, 11:43 pm

mulad wrote:At one point, there were two trains parked at Union Depot with kind of odd destinations on their message boards -- one was cycling "Downtown" / "Minneapolis", and the other was "Downtown Eas" (missing the "t"). I will say that there are some services out there where the destination board message changes as the vehicle travels along its route. It might make sense for a westbound train to start out with "Minneapolis" as a destination, then get more specific, such as when it gets to Westgate station on the border.
Why not just "DT/DTWN MPLS" and "DT ST PAUL"? It seems simple enough, although maybe some people might wonder what DTWN and DT mean initally if they never have seen the abbreviation before.

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Re: Green Line (Central Corridor LRT)

Postby Silophant » June 13th, 2014, 6:50 am

I feel like DWTN should be clear enough, even to visitors.

Also, I think the best way to go would to have westbound/northbound trains say DWTN Minneapolis until Downtown East, then switch to Target Field, and eastbound trains say DWTN St. Paul until the Capitol, then switch to Union Depot.


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