DTE: Wells Fargo, Radisson Red, Edition Apts & Millwright Building

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Re: Downtown East Project (Ryan Companies / Wells Fargo)

Postby ztr421 » February 20th, 2015, 1:39 pm

I used to work on the top floors of the taller International Centre/Oracle Centre building - the elevators go to the 18th floor, but there is also a 19th floor that is only accessible from 18 via a small personal elevator and a staircase. Perhaps this will be similar.

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Re: Downtown East Project (Ryan Companies / Wells Fargo)

Postby Nick » February 20th, 2015, 4:44 pm

There have been so many different renderings of the Downtown East area (this + ramp air rights development + park + stadium) at so many points in the past 18 months that it's really hard to take any of them that seriously.

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Re: Downtown East Project (Ryan Companies / Wells Fargo)

Postby IllogicalJake » March 5th, 2015, 9:36 am

Here's the current view from DTE Station.

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Re: Downtown East Project (Ryan Companies / Wells Fargo)

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Re: Downtown East Project (Ryan Companies / Wells Fargo)

Postby AccordGuy » March 5th, 2015, 5:44 pm

Precast is up on the east tower.
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Re: Downtown East Project (Ryan Companies / Wells Fargo)

Postby bapster2006 » March 6th, 2015, 3:24 pm

Radisson Red. So it's not going to just be a short apartment building next to the tower eh?

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Re: Downtown East Project (Ryan Companies / Wells Fargo)

Postby grant1simons2 » March 6th, 2015, 3:27 pm

At least on one side! That's good to hear. Although these will be smaller towers (and a bit ugly on some parts), it looks like they're going to be full mixed use. Hotel, apartments, retail, and offices all in a bundle next to a park and a stadium.

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Re: Downtown East Project (Ryan Companies / Wells Fargo)

Postby acs » March 6th, 2015, 3:31 pm

Again, I didn't even know there was that much room on the "back side" of these towers. Am I correct in assuming they could fit something similar behind the NW building?

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Re: Downtown East Project (Ryan Companies / Wells Fargo)

Postby Tyler » March 6th, 2015, 3:37 pm

Yes. There is space on both blocks. For "future apartments," originally.
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Re: Downtown East Project (Ryan Companies / Wells Fargo)

Postby Silophant » March 6th, 2015, 3:43 pm

That's good to hear. I was getting concerned that those parcels would be delayed indefinitely, and we would get stuck with the blank concrete walls.

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Re: Downtown East Project (Ryan Companies / Wells Fargo)

Postby topher hoefer » March 6th, 2015, 3:48 pm

Wells Fargo wrote in a stipulation that all construction would be done before workers moved in. We can expect the north sides of these blocks to reach completion when the towers do. Apartments on the west block (if they still go that route) and a hotel on the east will make for a great mix. This is a good peice of news for a warm sunny Friday!

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Re: Downtown East Project (Ryan Companies / Wells Fargo)

Postby Azel » March 6th, 2015, 3:49 pm

Anybody recall what Ryan is required to build on the backside parcels, and by when?

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Re: Downtown East Project (Ryan Companies / Wells Fargo)

Postby gpete » March 6th, 2015, 3:59 pm

Adam Vogue of Finance & Commerce pointed out that Ryan previously said that height is limited to 4 or 5 stories on the north side of the WF towers. Might be a small hotel.

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Re: Downtown East Project (Ryan Companies / Wells Fargo)

Postby Silophant » March 6th, 2015, 4:02 pm

That makes sense. The BizJournals article said Radisson Reds would be about 150 rooms. The Aloft hotel in the Mill District has a similar block-long footprint, and 155 rooms. So the Red will probably be the same five stories tall.

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Re: Downtown East Project (Ryan Companies / Wells Fargo)

Postby mattaudio » March 6th, 2015, 4:39 pm

I gotta say, hotels (and the business travelers that occupy them) will be great for jump-starting human scale land use as the neighborhood matures.

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Re: Downtown East Project (Ryan Companies / Wells Fargo)

Postby Tyler » March 6th, 2015, 5:21 pm

Silophant wrote:That makes sense. The BizJournals article said Radisson Reds would be about 150 rooms. The Aloft hotel in the Mill District has a similar block-long footprint, and 155 rooms. So the Red will probably be the same five stories tall.
This one would be one-sided though, right?
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Re: Downtown East Project (Ryan Companies / Wells Fargo)

Postby nBode » March 6th, 2015, 5:25 pm

I'm just confused as to why this was dropped from the air-rights proposal, only to be relocated literally right next door. Does anyone have an idea why this happened? Doesn't really make sense to me. Why is this any better (for Radisson) than the mixed use tower on the parking ramp block?

^Tyler: I think preliminary renderings showed (the then apartment buildings) in a U shape with the open area facing Third. Not sure if that format would remain for the hotel or not.

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Re: Downtown East Project (Ryan Companies / Wells Fargo)

Postby Silophant » March 6th, 2015, 5:47 pm

Well, their reasoning for dropping from the air-rights proposal was that they couldn't make a mixed-use tower work. I'm not sure why not, since it seems to work for the Radisson Blu, but in any case, this would be a single-use building instead of a mixed-use one. I'm surprised that its here, though. I expected them to build downtown, but I figured a millennial-focused hotel would work better closer to Hennepin and the North Loop.

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Re: Downtown East Project (Ryan Companies / Wells Fargo)

Postby min-chi-cbus » March 7th, 2015, 9:12 am

Maybe they're going after conservative Millenials with small families?

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Re: Downtown East Project (Ryan Companies / Wells Fargo)

Postby AccordGuy » March 7th, 2015, 10:17 am

It would make more sense to me to have the hotel on the park side of the building which would give hotel guest's a better view. If this is behind the east tower, which I think it is, they would be looking at the homeless shelter across the street. Not trying to knock the shelter, because it serves a need, but it makes better sense for the other side of the building. Better visibility too, not to mention the rail line across the street.
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