Blue Line LRT

[Bakken2016]

https://www.hometownsource.com/sun_curr ... 4170b.html

Due to the renaming of 28th Ave in Bloomington, 28th Ave Station will be renamed to 30th Ave Station by the summer of 2022.

[Tcmetro]

Too bad they aren't going with "Winstead Way". There's too many numbered roads in the Twin Cities and "30th Ave" provides poor locational context, IMO.

[Bakken2016]

Too bad they aren't going with "Winstead Way". There's too many numbered roads in the Twin Cities and "30th Ave" provides poor locational context, IMO.

I agree, but since it will already cost $15k to rename the station, I assume they want the shorter name. If I recall correctly there is large signage on the park and ride.


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[DanPatchToget]

Seems like a missed opportunity to call it South Loop Station since it's right in the middle of that area.

[Qhaberl]

I agree. The station should have a named Southloop station. It would definitely help more with wayfinding.


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[alexschief]

Just leave it as 28th Street Station so that the Strib continues to have Curious Minnesota material in ten years.

[thespeedmccool]

Hear me out: The Station Formerly Known as 28th Avenue

[twincitizen]

Too bad they aren't going with "Winstead Way". There's too many numbered roads in the Twin Cities and "30th Ave" provides poor locational context, IMO.

I agree, but since it will already cost $15k to rename the station, I assume they want the shorter name. If I recall correctly there is large signage on the park and ride.

Metro Transit partially chose 30th for consistency (they felt 30th Avenue was less of a "change" than going to 82nd Street), and also because they could just cover up "28" with "30" rather than fabricating entirely new signs. Perhaps a smart move in the short term to get it done quickly and cheaply, but my long-term prediction is that it will be 82nd Street Station someday.

Seems like a missed opportunity to call it South Loop Station since it's right in the middle of that area.

Bloomington probably would've had a hard time agreeing to that since all four of their LRT stations are located in the South Loop district. If I was going to rename an LRT station within South Loop (to "South Loop Station"), it would be Bloomington Central Station, which is an older name that refers to McGough Construction's ongoing multi-phase, mega-development. BCS encompasses the area between 30th and 34th Aves, and American Blvd down to OSR, so kind of the geographic middle of South Loop. BCS is not a great name for something that isn't remotely "central" within Bloomington's geography, and as a brand it certainly competes with, and possibly undermines the larger South Loop branding that the city is aggressively marketing. At this point, BCS is basically an inside-baseball term for future/unbuilt phases of McGough's development. No actual developments/buildings are using that name once completed, as far as I know.

[Bakken2016]

Too bad they aren't going with "Winstead Way". There's too many numbered roads in the Twin Cities and "30th Ave" provides poor locational context, IMO.

I agree, but since it will already cost $15k to rename the station, I assume they want the shorter name. If I recall correctly there is large signage on the park and ride.

Metro Transit partially chose 30th for consistency (they felt 30th Avenue was less of a "change" than going to 82nd Street), and also because they could just cover up "28" with "30" rather than fabricating entirely new signs. Perhaps a smart move in the short term to get it done quickly and cheaply, but my long-term prediction is that it will be 82nd Street Station someday.

All METRO(A,C, Blue, Green, Red, Orange) stations will have to be updated, since every single one has a map of the full METRO system. I assume though that will be rolled into the June Pick, so signs don't have to be printed twice.

[DanPatchToget]

https://www.progressiverailroading.com/ ... ine--66149

[Tcmetro]

Metro Transit update on the now 10 week closure of the line south of the airport:

UPDATE (9/19): Buses are replacing Blue Line trains between Mall of America and Airport-Terminal 2 as construction continues. We will provide an update no later than Friday, Sept. 23. We do not expect train service to resume before the end of September. 

[Tom H.]

Is there any detail about what's causing the delay? Worker shortage perhaps?

[Tcmetro]

Latest update from Metro Transit below. Hopefully service can start soon after the test trains start rolling!

UPDATE (9/23): Buses are replacing Blue Line trains between Mall of America and Airport-Terminal 2 as construction continues. Test trains are scheduled to begin operating on Monday, Sept. 26, but will not pick up customers. We will provide another update when train service is scheduled to resume.

[Bakken2016]

https://metrocouncil.org/Council-Meetin ... -TAAC.aspx

Renovation of Blue Line Lake St/Midtown Station going in front of TAAC on 5/3/23.

Improve customer experience: cleanliness, comfort,
visibility, wayfinding, lighting, safety
– Turn stairs around to face the street, improve sightlines
– Remove escalators, widen stairs to improve circulation
– Remove lobby enclosures in favor of an open-air design
– Move ticket purchasing and validation to street-level
stair and elevator entrances only, creating a paid fare
zone at the platform
– Add new lighting, modern camera systems throughout
– Remove shelters on the platform opening sightlines
– Add more protection from weather

[Tcmetro]

Some fairly major renovations planned!

Surprised they're taking out the escalators. I know the elevators have been having a problem recently, I wonder if the escalators are too.

[Bakken2016]

Some fairly major renovations planned!

Surprised they're taking out the escalators. I know the elevators have been having a problem recently, I wonder if the escalators are too.

The escalators are always not running, Metro Transit goes in and fixes them and within hours they are broken again.


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[DanPatchToget]

So they want more protection from the weather, but they also want to make the lobbies an open-air design. You can't have both in Minnesota, especially in the winter.

I'd like to say something to all the people who trashed the station lobby, but I'll keep it to myself. How much you want to bet that in 20 years the Met Council will be discussing making the Orange Line station at Lake Street an open-air design?

[Bakken2016]

So they want more protection from the weather, but they also want to make the lobbies an open-air design. You can't have both in Minnesota, especially in the winter.

I'd like to say something to all the people who trashed the station lobby, but I'll keep it to myself. How much you want to bet that in 20 years the Met Council will be discussing making the Orange Line station at Lake Street an open-air design?

The platform is already open-air design, if you look at the design mockup, the new roof is better than what currently exists.

[thespeedmccool]

https://metrocouncil.org/Council-Meetin ... -TAAC.aspx
– Move ticket purchasing and validation to street-level
stair and elevator entrances only, creating a paid fare
zone at the platform

Sounds like a great opportunity to add fare gates. Is that the idea here?

[DanPatchToget]

So they want more protection from the weather, but they also want to make the lobbies an open-air design. You can't have both in Minnesota, especially in the winter.

I'd like to say something to all the people who trashed the station lobby, but I'll keep it to myself. How much you want to bet that in 20 years the Met Council will be discussing making the Orange Line station at Lake Street an open-air design?

The platform is already open-air design, if you look at the design mockup, the new roof is better than what currently exists.

I didn't say anything about the platform, I'm talking about the indoor lobby below the platform.